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This is what a judge ruling was, I scoured ICT rules could not find it anywhere. GW Faq says they can. Can someone point me to the right direction?

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Ok just as a heads up, this forum is not an ITC rules discussion forum, but a GW rules forum.


Now that that's out of the way,

No, a 10 wound character cannot stop your opponent from shooting another character. If it has the character keyword, it provides no protection to other characters. I don't remember seeing any FAQ saying they did.

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 Eihnlazer wrote:
No, a 10 wound character cannot stop your opponent from shooting another character. If it has the character keyword, it provides no protection to other characters. I don't remember seeing any FAQ saying they did.

I've got no idea about ITC, but the standard character targeting rules are updated in the big FAQ 2. 10+ wound characters can indeed block for characters with fewer wounds.

TARGETING CHARACTERS
An enemy Character with a Wounds characteristic of less than 10 can only be chosen as a target in the Shooting phase if it is both visible to the
firing model and it is the closest enemy unit to the firing model. Ignore other enemy Characters with a Wounds characteristics of less than 10
when determining if the target is the closest enemy unit to the firing model.
This means that if any other enemy units (other than other Characters with a Wounds characteristics of less than 10) are closer, whether they
are visible or not, then the enemy Character cannot be targeted.
   
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Well if that's the case then the Judge just forgot about that part of the FAQ much like I did.


ITC ruleset made no mention of changing the character targeting rules the last time I read it.

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We would need more context on what occurred in order to determine why they judged in that way.

SJ

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An enemy Character with a Wounds characteristic of less than 10 can only be chosen as a target in the Shooting phase if it is both visible to the
firing model and it is the closest enemy unit to the firing model. Ignore other enemy Characters with a Wounds characteristics of less than 10 when determining if the target is the closest enemy unit to the firing model.
This means that if any other enemy units (other than other Characters with a Wounds characteristics of less than 10) are closer, whether they are visible or not, then the enemy Character cannot be targeted

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Lungpickle wrote:
An enemy Character with a Wounds characteristic of less than 10 can only be chosen as a target in the Shooting phase if it is both visible to the
firing model and it is the closest enemy unit to the firing model. Ignore other enemy Characters with a Wounds characteristics of less than 10 when determining if the target is the closest enemy unit to the firing model.
This means that if any other enemy units (other than other Characters with a Wounds characteristics of less than 10) are closer, whether they are visible or not, then the enemy Character cannot be targeted



Thus... a character with 10 wounds or... over 10 wounds...absolutely will block for a character less than 10 wounds. (Unless ICT states otherwise and or judge decides its his tournament and you play with his rules or he can't find the relevant rule because 8th edition while decent, is a rules mess)
   
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There is the question of is it current wounds or Max wounds?

In other statistics, a reduction is counted as permanent, such as Toughness 4 getting reduced by 1 becomes Toughness 3 for the remainder of the game.

Did the Judge Rule the the Character with less than 10 wounds which normally starts with over 10 wounds was not targetable due to another unit being closer?

Context of the actual instance matter in order to determine if the Judge was correct or wrong.

SJ

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That’s not a question since Big FAQ 2, which enshrines that they meant W stat, not current W. Stuff doesn’t magically shrink because it’s wounded.

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 JohnnyHell wrote:
That’s not a question since Big FAQ 2, which enshrines that they meant W stat, not current W. Stuff doesn’t magically shrink because it’s wounded.

Again, I am just asking for context so we can see if the Judge was correct or not in their ruling. Without context, there is no way to know why they ruled as they did. My example of a possible lost wounds versus max wounds was just an example.

SJ

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If the model starts the game with 10+ wounds, then it can be used to block los to another character.

The judge made an incorrect ruling.
   
 
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