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Hi everyone

I am looking towards a new army for new year and I was initially gonna do orks however with chapter approved out and leaks and pts reductions I been looking at 2 lists I'd like to try both have some general strategy which should be obvious but if your unsure on why I'm picking something ask I am still unsure on which warlord traits to take and relics but main thing here is destroyers vs breachers I feel this will be what makes or breaks the list

It is
Destroyers = 50 grav cannon shots 20 Phosphor shots 4+ save 30 wounds
Vs
Breachers = 36 arc rifle shots & better in combat, 3+ save 54 wounds

List one with destroyers
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) [65 PL, 838pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Forge World Choice: Forge World: Stygies VIII

+ HQ +

Tech-Priest Dominus [7 PL, 125pts]: Macrostubber, Volkite Blaster

Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 47pts]: Servo-arm

+ Troops +

Kataphron Destroyers [20 PL, 330pts]
. Kataphron Destroyer: Heavy Grav-Cannon, Phosphor Blaster
. Kataphron Destroyer: Heavy Grav-Cannon, Phosphor Blaster
. Kataphron Destroyer: Heavy Grav-Cannon, Phosphor Blaster
. Kataphron Destroyer: Heavy Grav-Cannon, Phosphor Blaster
. Kataphron Destroyer: Heavy Grav-Cannon, Phosphor Blaster

Skitarii Rangers [7 PL, 70pts]: 9x Skitarii Ranger
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle

Skitarii Rangers [7 PL, 70pts]: 9x Skitarii Ranger
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle

Skitarii Rangers [7 PL, 70pts]: 9x Skitarii Ranger
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle

Skitarii Rangers [7 PL, 70pts]: 9x Skitarii Ranger
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle

Skitarii Rangers [7 PL, 56pts]: 7x Skitarii Ranger
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) [50 PL, 927pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Forge World Choice: Forge World: Stygies VIII

+ HQ +

Tech-Priest Dominus [7 PL, 125pts]: Macrostubber, Volkite Blaster

Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 47pts]: Servo-arm

+ Troops +

Kataphron Destroyers [20 PL, 330pts]
. Kataphron Destroyer: Heavy Grav-Cannon, Phosphor Blaster
. Kataphron Destroyer: Heavy Grav-Cannon, Phosphor Blaster
. Kataphron Destroyer: Heavy Grav-Cannon, Phosphor Blaster
. Kataphron Destroyer: Heavy Grav-Cannon, Phosphor Blaster
. Kataphron Destroyer: Heavy Grav-Cannon, Phosphor Blaster

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 85pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 85pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 85pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 85pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 85pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Adeptus Custodes) [33 PL, 584pts] ++

+ HQ +

Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 160pts]: Hurricane Bolter

Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 160pts]: Hurricane Bolter

Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 160pts]: Hurricane Bolter

+ Elites +

Vexillus Praetor [6 PL, 104pts]: Misericordia, Vexilla Defensor

List 2 with breachers

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) [70 PL, 932pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Forge World Choice: Forge World: Stygies VIII

+ HQ +

Tech-Priest Dominus [7 PL, 125pts]: Macrostubber, Volkite Blaster

Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 47pts]: Servo-arm

+ Troops +

Kataphron Breachers [16 PL, 240pts]
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle

Kataphron Breachers [16 PL, 240pts]
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle

Skitarii Rangers [7 PL, 70pts]: 9x Skitarii Ranger
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle

Skitarii Rangers [7 PL, 70pts]: 9x Skitarii Ranger
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle

Skitarii Rangers [7 PL, 70pts]: 9x Skitarii Ranger
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle

Skitarii Rangers [7 PL, 70pts]: 9x Skitarii Ranger
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) [46 PL, 837pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Forge World Choice: Forge World: Stygies VIII

+ HQ +

Tech-Priest Dominus [7 PL, 125pts]: Macrostubber, Volkite Blaster

Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 47pts]: Servo-arm

+ Troops +

Kataphron Breachers [16 PL, 240pts]
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle
. Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 85pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 85pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 85pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 85pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 85pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Adeptus Custodes) [32 PL, 566pts] ++

+ HQ +

Shield Captain in Allarus Terminator Armor [8 PL, 142pts]: Guardian Spear

Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 160pts]: Hurricane Bolter

Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 160pts]: Hurricane Bolter

+ Elites +

Vexillus Praetor [6 PL, 104pts]: Misericordia, Vexilla Defensor