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Hey, I'm kinda new to trying anything with Imperial soup, am I doing this right? Am I missing anything super obvious? Seems like a pretty straight forward list?
Mostly, is it a bad choice for the warlord? weapons ok? psyker powers right? Obviously the PP's are for trying to deny a little smite spam. They will follow the bikes and knights at full speed advances every turn.
I'm not playing this in ITC, but casual-esque tabletop games with friends:
++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Adeptus Custodes) [27 PL, 507pts] ++ Open the Vaults (1 Relic)
+ HQ +
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 169pts]: Misericordia, Salvo Launcher
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 169pts]: Misericordia, Salvo Launcher
I would remove one primaris psyker, one helverin, use basic guard troops, give the company commander kurovs aquila. Add pask, he is the best tank in the imperium. My list is still old points. I would suggest using house hawkshroud, models with this Household Tradition double the number of wounds they have remaining for the purposes of determining what characteristics to use on their damage table. On a side note, this list is pretty strong, you could play this on a tournament.
Exalted Court: Exalted Court: 1 Extra Warlord Trait (-1CP)
Heirlooms of the Household: Heirlooms of the Household: 1 Extra Heirloom (-1CP)
Household Choice: House Terryn, Questor Imperialis
+ Lord of War +
Armiger Helverins [9 PL, 174pts] . Armiger Helverin: Heavy Stubber
Knight Crusader [25 PL, 501pts]: Character (Knight Lance), Heavy Stubber, Ironstorm Missile Pod, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Ion Bulwark
. Avenger Gatling Cannon w/ Heavy Flamer: Avenger Gatling Cannon, Heavy Flamer
. Rapid-Fire Battle Cannon w/ Heavy Stubber: Heavy Stubber, Rapid-Fire Battle Cannon
Knight Gallant [20 PL, 383pts]: Character (Heirloom of the House), Heirloom: Armour of the Sainted Ion, Ironstorm Missile Pod, Meltagun, Reaper Chainsword, Thunderstrike gauntlet
Not sure you need the Primaris, Nightshroud and Psychic Barrier are usually used if you're packing a Baneblade-chassis vehicle, you've got nothing there that'll really benefit from it that much. I'd drop one Primaris so you can at least Smite them, and consider running Psychic Malestrom (the one where you do a Mortal on a 2+, then 3+, and so on).
I'd ditch the Ironstorm pod on your Gallant, you want him advancing to get as close as possible, as well as to get your Landstrider bonus.
Also consider wherever you want Helverins or another Knight, dropping them and the Ironstorm as mentioned previously could get you another Gallant, or even an Errant if you lose the Ironstorm on the Crusader, and then you'd also have +6CP from the Knights instead of +3.
switch the Salvo Launchers to hurrica bolters, main problem with this list is decent anti horde. Hurricane bolters do a lot better job at that. Dropping one psycher is good advice and I also would go for dropping the helverins for another big knight I know it hurt because helverins are awesome but losing 3 CP in this manner .... argh..
It should be pausible to get this into one 2000 point list:
2x crusader with termal cannon, 1x gallant
3 shield captain
3 inantry squads, 1 company commander, 1 psycher
and yes, this is a tournament list. so if you have friends left at you'r local club... don't play it against them.
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Valkyrie wrote:Not sure you need the Primaris, Nightshroud and Psychic Barrier are usually used if you're packing a Baneblade-chassis vehicle, you've got nothing there that'll really benefit from it that much. I'd drop one Primaris so you can at least Smite them, and consider running Psychic Malestrom (the one where you do a Mortal on a 2+, then 3+, and so on).
I'd ditch the Ironstorm pod on your Gallant, you want him advancing to get as close as possible, as well as to get your Landstrider bonus.
Also consider wherever you want Helverins or another Knight, dropping them and the Ironstorm as mentioned previously could get you another Gallant, or even an Errant if you lose the Ironstorm on the Crusader, and then you'd also have +6CP from the Knights instead of +3.
faithonwings wrote:switch the Salvo Launchers to hurrica bolters, main problem with this list is decent anti horde. Hurricane bolters do a lot better job at that. Dropping one psycher is good advice and I also would go for dropping the helverins for another big knight I know it hurt because helverins are awesome but losing 3 CP in this manner .... argh..
It should be pausible to get this into one 2000 point list:
2x crusader with termal cannon, 1x gallant
3 shield captain
3 inantry squads, 1 company commander, 1 psycher
and yes, this is a tournament list. so if you have friends left at you'r local club... don't play it against them.
Fair, point on the psykers and ironstorm pod. I don't have the 3rd big knight yet, but I agree, it would be the more optimal option. I like the idea of a second Gallant getting in there. I'll have to work on getting that third one together at some point
For now, I think I will go with everything I can there, noting the Helverins. I could switch them to warglaives at the moment if needed, but I think the Helverins output more pain?
For Pask, I 100% agree. I didn't mention it, because I wasn't thinking of it, but we are going to do a campaign where no unique named characters are allowed, so, I could run a tank commander, but not Pask himself. Not sure it's worth it for just a tank commander.
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Necrons 7500+
IG 4000+
Custodes 2500
Knights 1500
Chaos / Daemons / Death Guard : 7500+ 
