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So I was skimming through my deathwatch codex/index and I noticed something maybe it is me trying to pull more then I should, so here is my question
As the index captain has a seperate entry list for combi weapons (you may replace your mastercrafted bolter for one weapon of the following list) and in the codex his normal list has combi weapons aswell (One weapon can be chosen from the following list) can my captain have 2 combi-weapons of the same kind?

no. Combi-weapons are on a list of "can only take 1" weapons.

odin wrote:
So I was skimming through my deathwatch codex/index and I noticed something maybe it is me trying to pull more then I should, so here is my question
As the index captain has a seperate entry list for combi weapons (wich he can take 1 of) and in the codex his normal list has combi weapons aswell (where he can take only one of) can my captain have 2 combi-weapons of the same kind?

You can only use the index for entries that are not on the codex datasheet, you don't have access to both versions. And in any case, both lists state you can only take one such weapon.

BCB as the combi weapon list is no longer on the codex datasheet would it not be RAW that you can still pick items from that list?

Im only asking as the index to codex back to index confuses the gak out of me...

odin wrote:
BCB as the combi weapon list is no longer on the codex datasheet would it not be RAW that you can still pick items from that list?

Im only asking as the index to codex back to index confuses the gak out of me...

Where are you getting the idea that the Combi Weapon isn't on the codex datasheet? Page 140 of the codex states "This model may replace its master-crafted boltgun with an item from the Pistols, Combi-weapons or Melee Weapons lists."

Edit: Oh, Deathwatch Watch Captains, not Vanilla ones. In any case, Combi Weapons are on the "Deathwatch Equipment list." so it's a non-issue. The designers commentary only allows you to use Index wargear options that don't exist in the Codex. The option for any and all combi-weapons exists for Watch Captains in the Deathwatch codex, so you use that codex option.

Hmm odd Mr.Raw himself going with RAI. I never saw this coming

odin wrote:
Hmm odd Mr.Raw himself going with RAI. I never saw this coming

What? It's a RAW argument. They still have access in the Codex, therefore they don't get to use them through the Index method.

From the designers commentary

Are there wargear options for your model that only appear in the index version of its datasheet?

The option to pick of the "combi-weapon list" is no longer available for deathwatch and thus falls under this

The only reason why I am asking btw is because battlescribe is OK with this and thus confuses me

I would call the weapons themselves the wargear options. The list is just a way to organise those options.

And I would call weapons, wargear and the options to pick wargear, wargear options

odin wrote:
And I would call weapons, wargear and the options to pick wargear, wargear options

You surely can't have both the wargear itself and the lists that contain wargear be the same for rules purposes. It has to be one or the other.

It’s pretty clear you can’t just staple two half rules together to get two combi-weapons, tbh...