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Made in hk
Chosen Baal Sec Youngblood




Is this a competitive list? I'm planning to use the aggressors with corbulo and the ancient to get rid of hordes or just deal a lot of wounds while the other units deep strike later to deal with units that are tougher.

Total: 10CP, 119PL, 1964pts

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) (26PL, 428pts)

+ No Force Org Slot +

+ HQ +

Brother Corbulo (5PL, 83pts): Bolt pistol, Heaven’s Teeth, Frag+krak grenades

The Sanguinor (9PL, 150pts): Encarmine Broadsword, Frag+krak grenades

+ Troops +

Scout Squad (4PL, 65pts):
Scout Sergeant: Sniper rifle, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades
Scout: Sniper rifle, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades
Scout: Sniper rifle, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades
Scout: Sniper rifle, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades
Scout: Sniper rifle, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades

Scout Squad (4PL, 65pts):
Scout Sergeant: Sniper rifle, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades
Scout: Sniper rifle, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades
Scout: Sniper rifle, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades
Scout: Sniper rifle, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades
Scout: Sniper rifle, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades

Scout Squad (4PL, 65pts):
Scout Sergeant: Sniper rifle, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades
Scout: Sniper rifle, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades
Scout: Sniper rifle, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades
Scout: Sniper rifle, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades
Scout: Sniper rifle, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) (51PL, 741pts)

+ No Force Org Slot +

+ HQ +

Lemartes (7PL, 100pts): Jump Pack, Blood Crozius, Bolt pistol, Frag+krak grenades, Veritas Vitae

+ Elites +

Death Company (27PL, 320pts): Jump Pack
Death Company Marine: Power sword, Chainsword, Frag+krak grenades
Death Company Marine: Power sword, Chainsword, Frag+krak grenades
Death Company Marine: Power sword, Chainsword, Frag+krak grenades
Death Company Marine: Power sword, Chainsword, Frag+krak grenades
Death Company Marine: Power sword, Chainsword, Frag+krak grenades
Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword, Frag+krak grenades
Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword, Frag+krak grenades
Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword, Frag+krak grenades
Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword, Frag+krak grenades
Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword, Frag+krak grenades
Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword, Frag+krak grenades
Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword, Frag+krak grenades
Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword, Frag+krak grenades
Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword, Frag+krak grenades
Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword, Frag+krak grenades

Terminator Assault Squad (11PL, 205pts):
Terminator Sergeant: Thunder hammer, Storm shield, Teleport homer
Terminator:Thunder hammer, Storm shield, Teleport homer
Terminator:Thunder hammer, Storm shield, Teleport homer
Terminator:Thunder hammer, Storm shield, Teleport homer
Terminator:Thunder hammer, Storm shield, Teleport homer

Terminator Ancient (6PL, 116pts): Lighting Claw, Archangel Standard (upgrade to standard of sacrifice)

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) (42PL, 795pts)

+ No Force Org Slot +

+ HQ +

Captain (6PL, 129pts): Jump Pack, Angel’s Wings (Add at start of battle), Thunder Hammer, Artisan of War (on Thunder Hammer), Storm Shield, Bolt pistol, frag+krak grenades

+ Elites +

Aggressor Squad (12PL, 222pts):
Aggressor Sergeant: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Aggressor: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Aggressor: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Aggressor: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Aggressor: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Aggressor: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher

Aggressor Squad (12PL, 222pts):
Aggressor Sergeant: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Aggressor: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Aggressor: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Aggressor: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Aggressor: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Aggressor: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher

Aggressor Squad (12PL, 222pts):
Aggressor Sergeant: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Aggressor: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Aggressor: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Aggressor: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Aggressor: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Aggressor: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher
   
Made in de
Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine





Germany

No, its not a competitive list. First BA arent competitive, no matter what you use, with only a few exceptions, like captn slamguinius, libby dread, mephiston. Second, you have terminators, they suck. DC hits hard, when they make the charge, but then die pretty fast. How do plan to take out a gunline ? You have very little anti tank.
   
Made in hk
Chosen Baal Sec Youngblood




Do you think this list could still win some battles? I'm not really looking to win tournaments I mainly want to have an army that has a chance against some other armies.
Also, what's wrong with terminators? Are they too slow? I thought that with the hammers and the storm shields they're pretty strong and can survive pretty well.
What would you suggest for a BA army that could be decent?
   
Made in de
Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine





Germany

Ok, you deepstrike your termis. Now you charge, you need to roll a 9. You chance of doing so is only 28%. You can re-roll one dice, but you can still fail. If your fail your 205 pts. termis stand there, doing nothing. Your opponent can now decide to ignore them, and simply move away, or shoot them. Your termis only have 5" movement, its not hard for the opponent to stay away from them. You can advance, but then you cant charge. You can teleport them back home to your deployment zone, and then they sit there, again doing nothing. Melee termis are the worst, shooting termis can at least shoot when they fail their charge. Your opponent could also decide to send a screen unit like cultists, poxwalkers, horrors towards them, and they are stuck in melee fighting a cheap horde unit, which is not what they are supposed to do.

Now, to improve your list i would remove the sanguinor, bro corbulo, the termis, drop DC down to 10 (15 are vulnerable to morale losses) with some PFs, add mephiston and/or a libby dread, and one or two dev squads with cherubs. Some razorbacks with twin AC and/or LC are ok as well. If you really want to play a termi like CC unit you should use SG with a sang ancient as your warlord with standard of sacrifice. SG are better termis, they have the same stats, are cheaper (with PFs), and have JPs as well. The sang ancient buffs them, and gives them 5+++ with the standard of sacrifice. Vets (company or vanguard) with JPs and plasma weapons, accompanied by the captain for safely overcharging are ok as well.

I think this is a decent list : https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/769587.page

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/01/09 09:17:39


 
   
Made in hk
Chosen Baal Sec Youngblood




Thanks for the tips! Do you think the aggressors or worth the points or should I reduce/remove them for other troops like tactical squads or intercessors? Also, are stormravens worth the point costs? They seem like they can deal a lot of damage but I'm not sure if they're worth it.
   
Made in gb
Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

Sangenius wrote:
Thanks for the tips! Do you think the aggressors or worth the points or should I reduce/remove them for other troops like tactical squads or intercessors? Also, are stormravens worth the point costs? They seem like they can deal a lot of damage but I'm not sure if they're worth it.


Aggressors can be decent but you don't necessarily need that many. Stormravens can be good but can be blown off the table quite easily, they may make a good transport for you DC though.
   
 
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