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So with her being toted as a fan favourite and me not having heard a single thing about this character ever - how do her novels hold up?

I'm usually pretty excited about anything concerning Guard, so I'm hoping this might be worth it.

   
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Same boat in not having heard of her, but what a fantastic model.
   
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Was there any rumors or pre-announcement for her? I'm usually good at following that kind of stuff but she seems to have popped out of no where.
   
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Great model when can you get it.
Still never heard of her and I have a guard army.


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Australia

Yeah she's not a fan favourite (at least not yet). She's only been in a few short stories so far, with her full novel to follow in February this year. Lovely model though!

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I just read a snippit from one of the short stories, it's good stuff. Interesting contrast of human sentiment - she genuinely seems to enjoy the company of the troops during downtime - and still being completely unhesitating in Commissar'ing them if and when. There's a neatly drawn sense of comfortable dissonance, rather than unalloyed fanaticism.

Nice little detail, that's a pocket watch with her "family seal" engraved on it dangling from her belt which features in the story. Great, great sculpt.

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Never heard of her, but fething fantastic model. Feminine enough to be recognizably female on sight, but not so feminine that it ruins the guard theme or undermines her militaristic character. About time we got a female commissar model.

Definitely going to read her novel when it comes out.

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saw some 3rd party sculpt of her from Artel, so there must be a following, though I've never heard of her either, and am a IG player at heart who have read much of the IG novels.

I'm going to sexy her up with a folded whip on the waist. Anyone know where I can find the suitable part?
   
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You could strip the plastic off the end of the wire if you want a cracker on it.

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She looks great. I hope more and more models follow this aesthetic.Upcoming guard stuff should look dope.
   
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I must admit I had heard of Severina Raine, but only because I had seen "A Severina Raine Novel" on the front of an upcoming book and at the time asked: Who the hell is Severina Raine? So I sense GW is being a little pushy with this character.

As to the model itself I think it looks more like a younger man/boy than a woman, with only the fact they painted the lips being suggestive of femininity. A return of Cadet Commissars maybe?
   
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Animus wrote:
As to the model itself I think it looks more like a younger man/boy than a woman...

The angle of the cheekbones and the face is pretty feminine IMO. Granted the nose looks a little blocky, but I think that is down to an art-style decision.

You can't get much more obviously feminine then that without straying into high heeled combat boots and boobplate territory which I'm glad they didn't do.

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w1zard wrote:
Animus wrote:
As to the model itself I think it looks more like a younger man/boy than a woman...

The angle of the cheekbones and the face is pretty feminine IMO. Granted the nose looks a little blocky, but I think that is down to an art-style decision.

You can't get much more obviously feminine then that without straying into high heeled combat boots and boobplate territory which I'm glad they didn't do.


You can get a lot more feminine in ways that I think would be easy enough without really modifying the fashion too much. Her body is very rectangular like a man's body, she could be thinned down at the waist or bulked up around hips, maybe given a breast swell rather than a straight barrel chest. Her hands are still very big and masculine looking, you could soften the jaw to remove the androgynous look, give her a more feminine hair cut. Maybe different angles will help, but just now it still looks like the Young Adventures of Commissar Yarrick.
   
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So sex her up you mean? No, it's really rather obvious it's a woman even with a cursory glance.
   
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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So sex her up you mean? No, it's really rather obvious it's a woman even with a cursory glance.


No, make her look like a woman, I'd say put her in a bikini if I wanted to make her sexy. At 28mm scale some things need to be made more prominent if you're supposed to be able to tell what they are. As it stand she's androgynous at best, and the only real feminine give away is in the paint job. The art of the character the mini is based on is much more feminine looking without her being "sexed up."
   
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Animus wrote:
w1zard wrote:
Animus wrote:
As to the model itself I think it looks more like a younger man/boy than a woman...

The angle of the cheekbones and the face is pretty feminine IMO. Granted the nose looks a little blocky, but I think that is down to an art-style decision.

You can't get much more obviously feminine then that without straying into high heeled combat boots and boobplate territory which I'm glad they didn't do.


You can get a lot more feminine in ways that I think would be easy enough without really modifying the fashion too much. Her body is very rectangular like a man's body, she could be thinned down at the waist or bulked up around hips, maybe given a breast swell rather than a straight barrel chest. Her hands are still very big and masculine looking, you could soften the jaw to remove the androgynous look, give her a more feminine hair cut. Maybe different angles will help, but just now it still looks like the Young Adventures of Commissar Yarrick.


The hip/shoulder ratio does seem a bit off to me, it is a little boyish. A bad paint job on the face (or a head swap) and you'd not be able to tell really; especially at the actual size of the model.
   
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Animus wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So sex her up you mean? No, it's really rather obvious it's a woman even with a cursory glance.


No, make her look like a woman, I'd say put her in a bikini if I wanted to make her sexy. At 28mm scale some things need to be made more prominent if you're supposed to be able to tell what they are. As it stand she's androgynous at best, and the only real feminine give away is in the paint job. The art of the character the mini is based on is much more feminine looking without her being "sexed up."


No it's really not. She already has thinner legs, shown off by the pose and a markedly thinner waist. Her chin is at a much shaper angle than a mans and as for the hair, until there's a 360 view there's no way to tell if she has it curled under the hat, in a bun or even in a ponytail down her back. So it's pointless commenting on that. You don't need bigger hips or boobs to tell that's a woman.
   
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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Animus wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So sex her up you mean? No, it's really rather obvious it's a woman even with a cursory glance.


No, make her look like a woman, I'd say put her in a bikini if I wanted to make her sexy. At 28mm scale some things need to be made more prominent if you're supposed to be able to tell what they are. As it stand she's androgynous at best, and the only real feminine give away is in the paint job. The art of the character the mini is based on is much more feminine looking without her being "sexed up."


No it's really not. She already has thinner legs, shown off by the pose and a markedly thinner waist. Her chin is at a much shaper angle than a mans and as for the hair, until there's a 360 view there's no way to tell if she has it curled under the hat, in a bun or even in a ponytail down her back. So it's pointless commenting on that. You don't need bigger hips or boobs to tell that's a woman.


Yup, the model is a bit thinner in the limbs, hence why I said it looks more akin to a boy or young man. The waist is not thin, the belt is essentially flush with the rest of the torso, as I said it's very rectangular. Female faces are usually softer looking, but her jaw is really pretty strong. I have said an a better angle may fix it, but this is their chosen golden angle, so I can only comment on that. You perhaps don't need them, but they certainly help. Really you just need less masculine proportions.
   
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Animus wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Animus wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So sex her up you mean? No, it's really rather obvious it's a woman even with a cursory glance.


No, make her look like a woman, I'd say put her in a bikini if I wanted to make her sexy. At 28mm scale some things need to be made more prominent if you're supposed to be able to tell what they are. As it stand she's androgynous at best, and the only real feminine give away is in the paint job. The art of the character the mini is based on is much more feminine looking without her being "sexed up."


No it's really not. She already has thinner legs, shown off by the pose and a markedly thinner waist. Her chin is at a much shaper angle than a mans and as for the hair, until there's a 360 view there's no way to tell if she has it curled under the hat, in a bun or even in a ponytail down her back. So it's pointless commenting on that. You don't need bigger hips or boobs to tell that's a woman.


Yup, the model is a bit thinner in the limbs, hence why I said it looks more akin to a boy or young man. The waist is not thin, the belt is essentially flush with the rest of the torso, as I said it's very rectangular. Female faces are usually softer looking, but her jaw is really pretty strong. I have said an a better angle may fix it, but this is their chosen golden angle, so I can only comment on that. You perhaps don't need them, but they certainly help. Really you just need less masculine proportions.


Take another look and look properly this time. The curve of her coat on her right hand side curls down her chest and along her waist almost forming "C" shape. Not typically something you'll see if she's rectangular. The coat hangs straight on her left hand side because she's leaning against it. Her jaw is at a sharp angle, very feminine whereas if was manly it would be more square. But there are no masculine proportions there. You're just seeing what you want to see.
   
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I hope she has a cool pony tail at the back.

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If she's not female enough, get the Games Day US '99 model . I'll buy this one, it's great.


Anyone know where I can find the suitable part?


The Runtherd model has a rolled-up whip bit. Since every Ork player with a Gretchin mob will have at least 3 of these dudes (he's part of the Gretchin sprue), chances are that you can easily source that bit.
   
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Uhh...most women don't have thin, wasp-waists, or soft, pointed jawlines, contrary to what depictions in games and movies and other media would have you believe.
It's a bit tiring seeing this same conversation come up every time a female miniature comes out that doesn't look like a pinup. Strange how nobody ever criticizes male miniatures for not being "masculine enough."
   
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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Animus wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Animus wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So sex her up you mean? No, it's really rather obvious it's a woman even with a cursory glance.


No, make her look like a woman, I'd say put her in a bikini if I wanted to make her sexy. At 28mm scale some things need to be made more prominent if you're supposed to be able to tell what they are. As it stand she's androgynous at best, and the only real feminine give away is in the paint job. The art of the character the mini is based on is much more feminine looking without her being "sexed up."


No it's really not. She already has thinner legs, shown off by the pose and a markedly thinner waist. Her chin is at a much shaper angle than a mans and as for the hair, until there's a 360 view there's no way to tell if she has it curled under the hat, in a bun or even in a ponytail down her back. So it's pointless commenting on that. You don't need bigger hips or boobs to tell that's a woman.


Yup, the model is a bit thinner in the limbs, hence why I said it looks more akin to a boy or young man. The waist is not thin, the belt is essentially flush with the rest of the torso, as I said it's very rectangular. Female faces are usually softer looking, but her jaw is really pretty strong. I have said an a better angle may fix it, but this is their chosen golden angle, so I can only comment on that. You perhaps don't need them, but they certainly help. Really you just need less masculine proportions.


Take another look and look properly this time. The curve of her coat on her right hand side curls down her chest and along her waist almost forming "C" shape. Not typically something you'll see if she's rectangular. The coat hangs straight on her left hand side because she's leaning against it. Her jaw is at a sharp angle, very feminine whereas if was manly it would be more square. But there are no masculine proportions there. You're just seeing what you want to see.


Obviously not a perfect rectangle, just as an actual man isn't either. Lifting the arm pulls up the coat up and forms that curve from torso to arm, the coat curling in the air would be the wind. The body is not at all shapely. Her jawline is very severe, where as women typically have softer, rounder faces. Then of course there are still the issues of the bigger hands and nose and the barrel chest.


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 Drakzilla wrote:
Uhh...most women don't have thin, wasp-waists, or soft, pointed jawlines, contrary to what depictions in games and movies and other media would have you believe.
It's a bit tiring seeing this same conversation come up every time a female miniature comes out that doesn't look like a pinup. Strange how nobody ever criticizes male miniatures for not being "masculine enough."


The male miniatures are all very masculine though. Part of that is down to the old heroic scale doing thing like making really thick arms with massive hands, broad shoulders and big slab like faces. The archetypal Space Marine is almost a masculine caricature.

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Please take some time to look at this link and pay especial attention to the top left image https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/the-differences-between-male-and-female-portraits--vector-14954

If you really can't see the thinner waist, then I can't help your eyes. Yes, so you admit the coat curves to the torso then. So it curls too her waist. And as for the chest, how exactly do you think it's meant to look when she's wearing a solid steel plate?

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She is trained military, which means she has more muscle than 90% of DakkaDakka. Of course she isn't going to be "feminine".
   
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Found this here online:



Illustrates pretty well what could have been done to make her less boyish without going too far.
   
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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Please take some time to look at this link and pay especial attention to the top left image https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/the-differences-between-male-and-female-portraits--vector-14954

If you really can't see the thinner waist, then I can't help your eyes. Yes, so you admit the coat curves to the torso then. So it curls too her waist. And as for the chest, how exactly do you think it's meant to look when she's wearing a solid steel plate?


The model's face isn't that round, again she has a severe jaw, that's what I've been saying. The waist is not thin, and my eyes are fine. The coat curves due to the fact she's raising her arm and because of the wind lifting the tails, it's not a feminine curve, but a curve from raising your arm while wearing a coat on a windy day. They could have had a breast swell if they wanted to suggest more femininity, and while that's not necessary on it's own - it's not in the art for example - it becomes an important option to consider if you want the model to come out looking female while there's a dearth of other feminine traits. Overall I'm not saying this model looks like He-Man or the Hulk, but boyish and lacking in femininity.


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 BertBert wrote:
Found this here online:



Illustrates pretty well what could have been done to make her less boyish without going too far.


Wow, pretty much spot on, good find.

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Animus wrote:

 Drakzilla wrote:
Uhh...most women don't have thin, wasp-waists, or soft, pointed jawlines, contrary to what depictions in games and movies and other media would have you believe.
It's a bit tiring seeing this same conversation come up every time a female miniature comes out that doesn't look like a pinup. Strange how nobody ever criticizes male miniatures for not being "masculine enough."


The male miniatures are all very masculine though. Part of that is down to the old heroic scale doing thing like making really thick arms with massive hands, broad shoulders and big slab like faces. The archetypal Space Marine is almost a masculine caricature.


All the male miniatures are very masculine? Look at any of the minis in the Eldar/Dark Eldar range and tell me that those male minis are hyper masculine, broad-shouldered caricatures. Or the Delaques for Necromunda? Those thin, lanky proportions and floor-length robes just scream masculinity.

My point is, there is so much variance in body types for male characters that never gets questioned, whereas if a female character has a body shape that strays even a little from a typical supermodel build, people pile on and yell about how they don't look like women.
   
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That's an awful edit. Her waist looks like it was crushed in a vice and the hands look absurdly small and the lips are far too pouty. It makes her look like she's gone overboard with lipstick.
   
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 Drakzilla wrote:
Animus wrote:

 Drakzilla wrote:
Uhh...most women don't have thin, wasp-waists, or soft, pointed jawlines, contrary to what depictions in games and movies and other media would have you believe.
It's a bit tiring seeing this same conversation come up every time a female miniature comes out that doesn't look like a pinup. Strange how nobody ever criticizes male miniatures for not being "masculine enough."


The male miniatures are all very masculine though. Part of that is down to the old heroic scale doing thing like making really thick arms with massive hands, broad shoulders and big slab like faces. The archetypal Space Marine is almost a masculine caricature.


All the male miniatures are very masculine? Look at any of the minis in the Eldar/Dark Eldar range and tell me that those male minis are hyper masculine, broad-shouldered caricatures. Or the Delaques for Necromunda? Those thin, lanky proportions and floor-length robes just scream masculinity.

My point is, there is so much variance in body types for male characters that never gets questioned, whereas if a female character has a body shape that strays even a little from a typical supermodel build, people pile on and yell about how they don't look like women.


Yes, the Eldar are very masculine looking. The typical Guardian has a massive broad chest and shoulders, and arms that are as thick as his legs, big brick like hands and narrow hips. Since when could men not wear robes? can still tell the difference between the male and female Delaque easily.
Nobody says all the women have to look like super models, the Delaque you yourself pointed out have females amongst them that certainly don't. But this particular model look like a boy, when the art work it clearly drew from, does not. The character isn't supposed to be androgynous.
   
 
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