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Hi all.

I cannot for the life of me find anything in the rule book or in the Extended Firing Deck rule that disallows this. I know the Stormlord can but as far as I know, this is not passed onto the passengers.

Book and page numbers please

Vim

 vim_the_good wrote:
Hi all.

I cannot for the life of me find anything in the rule book or in the Extended Firing Deck rule that disallows this. I know the Stormlord can but as far as I know, this is not passed onto the passengers.

Book and page numbers please

Vim

"It doesn't say I can't" is not a valid argument. It also doesn't say I can't feed a kitten some tuna to automatically pass morale tests either. The rule gives you permission to shoot with "Up to 20 models being transported by a Stormlord". That being said, because the unit itself is not within 1" of an enemy, then they can fire as normal even if the Stormlord itself is. Unlike the Open-Topped rule found on other transports, it doesn't say "for example, the passengers cannot shoot [...] if this model is within 1" of an enemy unit". As you are given permission to shoot with the passengers, the Extended Firing Deck doesn't prohibit firing when the Stormlord is within 1" of an enemy unit, and the firing unit itself cannot possibly be within 1" of an enemy unit, you are permitted to fire.

BRB page 179 for the Shooting rules, Codex: Astra Copywritum page 124 for the Stormlord rules, Codex: Orks page 113 for an example of an Open-Topped rule that prohibits the embarked unit from firing when the transport is within 1" of an enemy.

They can shoot because the extended firing deck rule says they can. The embarked models arent within 1" of an enemy model.

Thanks guys. That's kind of what I was thinking but wanted some validation.

Note that they can't target the enemy unit that is within 1", as they are still an invalid target for normal shooting and there's no exception as there is for the Stormlord's Heavy Bolters/Flamers.

 Stux wrote:
Note that they can't target the enemy unit that is within 1", as they are still an invalid target for normal shooting and there's no exception as there is for the Stormlord's Heavy Bolters/Flamers.

That's a very important point! It's similar to the as the Sporocyst's Bio-fortress rule, it can fire it's weapons even if enemies are within 1" of it, but enemies within 1" of it cannot normally be fired upon by anything (special exceptions notwithstanding).

Fair point. Thanks again guys.