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Despised Traitorous Cultist




Bellevue

UPDATED
Battleforged - 3 cp

HQ
Arkos combi melta - 120 - 1 cp
Lord (nurgle) power armor + powerfist + combi plasma - 94
Sorcerer (tzeentch) power armor + force staff + combi bolter - 102
Exalted Champion (khorne) power armor + blade of hydra + bolt pistol - 70
Dark Apostle (khorne) power armor + black mace + combi bolter - 79
Daemon Prince (tzeentch) - malefic talons + wings- 180 * variable points on this one depending on loadout
Total - 645

Troops - battalion - 5 cp
Chaos space marines x5 + 1 heavy bolter - 65
Cultists x 10 melee - 56 * flamer
Cultists x 10 ranged - 52 * stubber
Total - 173

Elites - vanguard - 1 cp
Chosen x 8 (slaanesh) +1 flamer +1 plasmagun + 1 powerfist + 1 chainfist + 1 power axe + 1 set lightning claws + 2 power sword +1 plasma pistol + 1 icon of excess - 185
Rhino - combi bolter x2 + havoc launcher - 78
Possessed(khorne) x 5 icon of khorne- 110
Helbrute helbrute fist + helbrute plasma + heavy bolter - 116
Total - 489

Heavy Support - spearhead - 1 cp
Havocs x5 (slaanesh) x4 lascannons + 1 champion - 165
Defiler - reaper autocannon + scourge + combi flamer - 173
Predator predator autocannon +twin lascannon + havoc lauchner - 188
Total - 526

Flyer
Heldrake baleflamer - 167

Grand Total - 2000 points (some variations depending on what load out I choose for various models)
11 cp (most likely spending 1 point on an extra relic and possible forward operatives before the start so going in with 10 or 9 cp)

Summary of how it plays -
I would categorize this as a strong objective taking list with many angles of attack, the idea being you have both a powerful front and back line without any obvious targets for the enemy to pick on (along with "i am alpharious" warlord trait and "hidden in plain sight" alpha legion bonus) making it difficult for the opponent to prioritize efficiently. The rhino carries the important cargo of chosen w/ power weapons, dark apostle, and exalted champion, along with a defiler and heldrake and chaff moving up the board while the ranged units stay back as second rank fire.

Strengths - Bulky and capable with many threats, hard to shoot at, stubborn on objectives

Weakness - Psychers, they essentially negate your passive defense of "hidden in plain sight". Swarms, while the firepower is good it isn't suited for dealing with many models that can absorb the special weapons given that I don't have much small arms fire.

This message was edited 15 times. Last update was at 2019/02/13 23:22:21


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Might wanna check Chapter Approved for points changes.
   
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Bellevue

oh thanks, I'll update the list

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Bellevue

Any comments on the overall power of this list? With point drops all over the Heretic Astartes units in chapter approved it seems like there's a lot of value coming from formerly useless units such as possessed, chosen, and defiler.

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Amsterdam

The squad of chosen seem to be a really high point sink and easy to kill target. What will they do exactly close combat? ranged support?

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HMM, Chainfists are not particualry worth it.
Flamers are also meh.

I agree with Demic here that you maybee want to cut down the weapons on the chosen.

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Washington, DC

It seems odd to have so many HQs in a single detachment. If objective taking is a huge part of your approach, find 150 points for cultists in a second battalion. 5 extra CP for VotLW, Slaanesh double shooting, etc, with 30 extra Objective Secured bodies. I'm not a CSM player (yet...), but the Swiss Army knife approach to the Chosen looks less like to provide something for every occasion than to fail to be satisfactory in any occasion. Everything else has a clear job to do.

Just a thought!

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Bellevue

I will mix what both critics stated: chosen are a point dump into a swiss army knife. While that is true that is also kind of the point, if my opponent goes to take them down, I get to choose which models drop off, also they have to destroy the rhino first so there is a measure of protection they get that way. Normally I imagine them going for a flank attack into melee so I can drop the ranged special weapons first and cheap stuff like power swords and by the time I'm in combat I have the expensive stuff still intact and ready to deal big damage. Also I have to please the chaos gods and keep things random.

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 brazenjaw wrote:
I will mix what both critics stated: chosen are a point dump into a swiss army knife. While that is true that is also kind of the point, if my opponent goes to take them down, I get to choose which models drop off, also they have to destroy the rhino first so there is a measure of protection they get that way. Normally I imagine them going for a flank attack into melee so I can drop the ranged special weapons first and cheap stuff like power swords and by the time I'm in combat I have the expensive stuff still intact and ready to deal big damage. Also I have to please the chaos gods and keep things random.


The problem with the rhino is not that it does not offer protection, but rather that in a game were Knights literally skew everything torwards AT they are more like Cardboard boxes then anything else.

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Who would win:
10'000 + years of veterancy, or some raidy Boys?
(Not Online in regards to the new Red Corsair battalion CP boost.) 
   
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Bellevue

Yeah but that's just a shell, sure they can concentrate fire on the smoked rhino (given that's the position) but then he isn't shooting the heldrake, helbrute, predator or defiler. Something is getting targeted, but the idea is there is enough threats on the board that taking out that one isn't game losing. Same goes for the theoretical opponent with the knight, if I just chunk off his knight early he'll have more power than that on the board. Given all drops in this army are less than 200 points any single loss is tolerable.

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