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Played against a friend today and he had a +1 to his hitrolls, he seid his untis are immun to overcharge damage.

Skullphoquer wrote:
Played against a friend today and had a +1 to his hitrolls, he seid his untis are immun to overcharge damage.

He was correct. You can't roll a 1 on a d6+1.

To be entirely clear, you can roll a 1 (Roll of 1 always misses regardless of modifiers) but cannot get a Hit Roll of 1 (which slays a model using an overcharged plasma weapon) on a d6+1 (Roll of 1 becomes Hit Roll of 2).

 alextroy wrote:
To be entirely clear, you can roll a 1 (Roll of 1 always misses regardless of modifiers) but cannot get a Hit Roll of 1 (which slays a model using an overcharged plasma weapon) on a d6+1 (Roll of 1 becomes Hit Roll of 2).

Getting a bit "um, actually" here, but when the game refers to a roll, it includes modifiers and re-rolls. Unless it specifies that it ignores them of course. So technically in game terms you can't roll a 1 if you have a +1 modifier. You can roll a NATURAL 1 though.

You can't roll a result of 1 on a D6+1, therefore you cannot cause an Imperial Plasma Weapon to slay it's bearer.

However, an unmodified roll of 1 will always miss regardless of your positive modifiers.

Also take into account that other modifiers may apply that will negate that +1 that your opponent has.

 Stux wrote:

 alextroy wrote:
To be entirely clear, you can roll a 1 (Roll of 1 always misses regardless of modifiers) but cannot get a Hit Roll of 1 (which slays a model using an overcharged plasma weapon) on a d6+1 (Roll of 1 becomes Hit Roll of 2).

Getting a bit "um, actually" here, but when the game refers to a roll, it includes modifiers and re-rolls. Unless it specifies that it ignores them of course. So technically in game terms you can't roll a 1 if you have a +1 modifier. You can roll a NATURAL 1 though.

No. Clarifying that they can roll a 1, which has game effects, but not have a Hit Roll of 1 because 1 + 1 = 2. this is a common point of confusion, so is worth clarifying.

speaking along the same lines of modifiers.

last year I played vs some horrors attacking my Wraithguard. I used the psychic power that is minus 1 to wound.
The attacking unit normally needed a 6 to wound the Wraithguard. My opponent said that his guys then needed a 7+ to wound an thus could not wound my guys....Did we play that correctly?


I do know some units have 7+ Armour saves so it does seem you can indeed break the d6 parameters.

 admironheart wrote:
speaking along the same lines of modifiers.

last year I played vs some horrors attacking my Wraithguard. I used the psychic power that is minus 1 to wound.
The attacking unit normally needed a 6 to wound the Wraithguard. My opponent said that his guys then needed a 7+ to wound an thus could not wound my guys....Did we play that correctly?


I do know some units have 7+ Armour saves so it does seem you can indeed break the d6 parameters.

Yes, you played that correctly. You needed a 6 to wound, and you are rolling a D6-1. You will never roll a 6 on a D6-1, so you cannot wound. There is no rule that says a 6 always wounds, only that a 1 always fails to wound.