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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/10 17:16:15
Subject: Genestealer Cult Sanctus familiars stat line
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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We're trying out a GSC game tonight, with the new codex.
Several HQs have a familiar that is a real model with a stat line that can be targeted according to normal rules.
Except for the Sanctus familiar. There is no stat line for him, yet there are weapons listed belonging to the familiar. Is this a miss, should there have been a stat line? Can we assume it's similar to the other familiars?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/10 17:18:10
Subject: Genestealer Cult Sanctus familiars stat line
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Norn Queen
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torblind wrote:We're trying out a GSC game tonight, with the new codex. Several HQs have a familiar that is a real model with a stat line that can be targeted according to normal rules. Except for the Sanctus familiar. There is no stat line for him, yet there are weapons listed belonging to the familiar. Is this a miss, should there have been a stat line? Can we assume it's similar to the other familiars?
Its intended. Unlike the other models, the rules for the familiar are bundled into the single Sanctus model. See the rule for "Familiar claws", and the "Soulsight Familiar" rule applying to "this model". The Soulsight Familiar is similar ruleswise to how the mount portion of things like Thunderwolf Calvary or Bloodcrushers work, it's all subsumed into a single profile.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/10 17:20:33
Subject: Genestealer Cult Sanctus familiars stat line
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Well, what are the familiar's stats then, when fighting?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/10 17:21:53
Subject: Genestealer Cult Sanctus familiars stat line
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Norn Queen
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It doesn't have one, it's absorbed into a single profile the same way Cavalry models are. "Each time a model guided by a Familiar fights, it can make 2 additional attacks with this weapon." Also see the rule for "Familiar claws", and the "Soulsight Familiar" rule applying to "this model". If it was meant to be a two model unit it would say "The Sanctus" The only "issue" is GW muddying the waters by having both separate and combined familiars and being vague as in the unit description.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/10 17:29:31
Subject: Genestealer Cult Sanctus familiars stat line
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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It’s similar to the GUOs Nurglings. They are additional attacks made by the model, not a separate critter.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/02/10 17:30:12
The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/10 17:30:46
Subject: Genestealer Cult Sanctus familiars stat line
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Ah I see. Thanks. That makes sense (once you know it!)
What about the characters that have a familiar - if the character is targeted, are they considered a unit, can the controlling player select the familiar for unsaved wounds, or are they separate units?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/02/10 17:33:37
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/10 17:34:20
Subject: Genestealer Cult Sanctus familiars stat line
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Norn Queen
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torblind wrote:Ah I see. Tjanks. That makes sense (once you know it!)
What about the characters that have a familiar - if the character is targeted, are they considered a unit, can the controlling player select the familiar for unsaved wounds, or are they separate units?
They are a single unit, no different to, say, a 2 man unit of Attack Bikes. The Designers Commentary describes how to deal with the CHARACTER-ness of the unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/10 17:34:41
Subject: Genestealer Cult Sanctus familiars stat line
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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They are the same unit, and the controlling player can allocate wounds to the familiar if they want.
Familiars are basically wargear for characters.
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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