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Sinister Chaos Marine





Here is a list for Khornate Daemons that I'm putting together, and I wouldn't mind some feedback. Keep in mind that this is the first Warhammer army list that I've ever created.

Warlord Battalion:
Daemon Prince of Chaos with Malefic talons [HQ] [Warlord] (Trait: Oblivious to Pain) (Artefact – Armour of Scorn)
Herald (Bloodmaster) [HQ]
Soul Grinder [Heavy Support] (Mark of Khorne)
1 x 30 Bloodletters (with Banner of Blood)
1 x 10 Bloodletters

First Daemon Prince Battalion:
Daemon Prince with Wings, Daemonic axe, and one set of talons [HQ] (Artefact - Skull Reaver)
Karanak [HQ]
Blood Throne [HQ]
Skull Cannon [Heavy Support]
1 x 10 Bloodletters
1 x 10 Bloodletters
1 x 12 Bloodletters

Skulltaker Battalion:
Skulltaker [HQ]
Daemon Prince of Chaos with Malefic talons [HQ]
Skull Cannon [Heavy Support]
1 x 23 Bloodletters (with Daemonic instrument)
1 x 10 Bloodletters
1 x 10 Bloodletters

Total points: 1997
Command points: 17 (one subtracted for Skull Reaver)

I'm wondering if I should switch out my third DP for one with a sword so I can give it A'rgath, or give another model Crimson Crown, do both, or just leave things as is.


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EDIT: Ok, so here's a new list that I cooked up. I want my Bloodletter bomb to be as dangerous as possible, so I'll hook it up with a Blood Throne with the Crimson Crown and my sole Bloodletter Instrument of Chaos (I do have others on models, but due to points, I'm only using one):

Warlord Battalion:
Daemon Prince of Chaos with Malefic talons [HQ] [Warlord] (Mark of Khorne) (Trait: Oblivious to Pain) (Artefact – Armour of Scorn)
Herald (Bloodmaster) [HQ]
Blood Throne [HQ] (Artefact – Crimson Crown)
Soul Grinder [Heavy Support] (Mark of Khorne)
1 x 30 Bloodletters (with Banner of Blood/Icon and Instrument of Chaos)
1 x 10 Bloodletters

Winged Daemon Prince Battalion:
Daemon Prince with Wings, Daemonic axe, and one set of talons [HQ] (Mark of Khorne) (Artefact – Skull Reaver)
Karanak [HQ]
Skull Cannon [Heavy Support]
1 x 10 Bloodletters
1 x 10 Bloodletters
1 x 12 Bloodletters

Skulltaker Battalion:
Skulltaker [HQ]
Daemon Prince of Chaos with Malefic talons [HQ] (Mark of Khorne)
Skull Cannon [Heavy Support]
1 x 23 Bloodletters
1 x 10 Bloodletters
1 x 10 Bloodletters

Total points: 1997
Command points (original): 18
Command points (remaining after artefacts and Blood Banner): 14

This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2019/03/06 06:32:28


 
   
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Hello.
First off. I like all the cp but even with skulltaker you want and need the +1 to hit if the BL unit is 20+ models.
And I think you’re right about relic sword instead of a naked DP.

Writing on phone on work now so might miss something or the likes but I would do something like this.

Battalion.
2 x DP. Axe and sword relic

3x 25 letters with banner and icon in deep strikes.

Battalion
DP. Crimson crown for more hits 6”
Skulltaker
Herald

2x 10 letters
1x 20 letters

Spearhead
Bloodthrone
Karanak

2x skullcannon
Soulgrinder


Banner and the stratagem so you get 3D6 charge after DS, khorne loci and you can reroll charge roll.
Axe and sword DP vs tanks and toughness models like a Knight. Sorry can’t be more helpful at the moment.
   
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Feels to me that you need some tougher stuff sheilding your characters. Bloodletters in the open go down easy to a stiff wind. Plus mobile units won't have to take a lot off to get through to your DP ect.

I'd consider bringing in a little csm to sheild better, 3 hellbrutes with double fists or maulerfiends would be much tougher to get through and they're relatively cheap after CA 18.
   
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Sinister Chaos Marine





Tazberry wrote:Hello.
First off. I like all the cp but even with skulltaker you want and need the +1 to hit if the BL unit is 20+ models.
And I think you’re right about relic sword instead of a naked DP.

Writing on phone on work now so might miss something or the likes but I would do something like this.

Battalion.
2 x DP. Axe and sword relic

3x 25 letters with banner and icon in deep strikes.

Battalion
DP. Crimson crown for more hits 6”
Skulltaker
Herald

2x 10 letters
1x 20 letters

Spearhead
Bloodthrone
Karanak

2x skullcannon
Soulgrinder


Banner and the stratagem so you get 3D6 charge after DS, khorne loci and you can reroll charge roll.
Axe and sword DP vs tanks and toughness models like a Knight. Sorry can’t be more helpful at the moment.


That's an interesting list, thanks. The thing is, if I take Skull Reaver, A'rgath, and the Crimson Crown, my only anti-psyker character would be Karanak, and if he dies, I'll be wide open to psychic attacks. Hence, the reason I gave my warlord Armour of Scorn. Also, I've read that Banner of Blood is best with a Blood Throne that has the crown. I do like the way that the Bloodletters are organized as I do plan to have several deep strikes.

small_gods wrote: Feels to me that you need some tougher stuff sheilding your characters. Bloodletters in the open go down easy to a stiff wind. Plus mobile units won't have to take a lot off to get through to your DP ect.

I'd consider bringing in a little csm to sheild better, 3 hellbrutes with double fists or maulerfiends would be much tougher to get through and they're relatively cheap after CA 18.


Putting in CSM is a good idea. I also want to get some Helbrutes and Maulerfiends, but at the moment, I just don't have the money to do so.
   
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Alright, here is my new list. I got rid of the Skull Cannons and replaced them with my Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury, as well as got rid of my second battalion's Bloodletters and replaced them with three units of Flesh Hounds (for the second unit, I'm using Chaos Warhounds as stand-ins, and on the third, I'm going to have four Warhounds led by the Magore's Fiends Flesh Hound). The semi-official name of this battalion is the Fast Dudes Battalion . I moved my Bloodmaster to the third battalion to beef it up and got rid of my Armour of Scorn since the Flesh Hounds plus Karanak make it unnecessary.

Warlord Battalion:
Daemon Prince of Chaos with Malefic talons [HQ] [Warlord] (Mark of Khorne) (Trait: Oblivious to Pain)
Blood Throne [HQ] (Artefact – Crimson Crown)
Soul Grinder [Heavy Support] (Mark of Khorne)
1 x 25 Bloodletters (with Banner of Blood/Icon and Instrument of Chaos)
1 x 14 Bloodletters
1 x 10 Bloodletters

Winged Daemon Prince Battalion:
Daemon Prince with Wings, Daemonic axe, and one set of talons [HQ] (Mark of Khorne) (Artefact – Skull Reaver)
Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury [HQ]
Karanak [HQ]
1 x 5 Flesh Hounds
1 x 5 Flesh Hounds
1 x 5 Flesh Hounds

Skulltaker Battalion:
Skulltaker [HQ]
Daemon Prince of Chaos with Malefic talons [HQ] (Mark of Khorne)
Herald (Bloodmaster) [HQ]
1 x 15 Bloodletters
1 x 10 Bloodletters
1 x 10 Bloodletters

Total points: 1997
Command points (original): 18
Command points (remaining after artefacts and Blood Banner): 15

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/03/10 11:42:45


 
   
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Alright, I changed things again. Here is my new list:

Warlord Battalion (636 pts.):
Daemon Prince of Chaos with Malefic talons [HQ] [Warlord] (Mark of Khorne) (Trait: Oblivious to Pain) (Artefact: Armour of Scorn)
Blood Throne [HQ] (Artefact – Crimson Crown)
2 x 30 Bloodletters (one with Banner of Blood/Icon and Instrument of Chaos)
1 x 10 Bloodletters

Bloodthirster Battalion (606 pts.)):
Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury [HQ]
Daemon Prince of Chaos with Malefic talons [HQ] (Mark of Khorne)
1 x 20 Bloodletters
2 x 10 Bloodletters

Skulltaker Battalion (474 pts.):
Skulltaker [HQ]
Daemon Prince with Wings, Daemonic axe, and one set of talons [HQ] (Mark of Khorne) (Artefact – Skull Reaver)
1 x 20 Bloodletters
2 x 10 Bloodletters

Total points: 1994 pts.
Command points (original): 18
Command points (remaining after artefacts and Blood Banner): 14
   
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Look loads better

Just one pointer, you can take banner of blood as many times as you want as it's a pre game strat so you can have it on all your big BL blo s if you want.
   
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 small_gods wrote:
Look loads better

Just one pointer, you can take banner of blood as many times as you want as it's a pre game strat so you can have it on all your big BL blo s if you want.


Thanks, although now I just realized, if I want this list, I'm going to have to buy and build a bunch more Bloodletters, and the idea of constructing more at the time makes me almost nauseous, so I might have to go back to an older list. I will say that I'm going to make sure that all of my BL units are increments of ten.


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Alright, here is a new list. It's hot garbage compared to the last one, but it's the best I can do:

Warlord Battalion:
Daemon Prince of Chaos with Malefic talons [HQ] [Warlord] (Mark of Khorne) (Trait: Oblivious to Pain)
Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury [HQ]
Blood Throne [HQ] (Artefact – Crimson Crown)
1 x 30 Bloodletters (with Banner of Blood/Icon and Instrument of Chaos)
1 x 10 Bloodletters
1 x 10 Bloodletters

Karanak Outrider Detachment:
Karanak [HQ]
Daemon Prince with Wings, Daemonic axe, and one set of talons [HQ] (Mark of Khorne)
(Artefact – Skull Reaver)
1 x 5 Flesh Hounds
1 x 5 Flesh Hounds
1 x 5 Flesh Hounds

Skulltaker Battalion:
Skulltaker [HQ]
Daemon Prince of Chaos with Malefic talons [HQ] (Mark of Khorne)
Daemon Prince with wings, Hellforged sword, and one set of talons [HQ] (Mark of Khorne) (Artefact – King of Blades)
1 x 10 Bloodletters (with Instrument of Chaos)
1 x 10 Bloodletters
1 x 10 Bloodletters

Total points: 1991
Command points (original): 14
Command points (remaining after artefacts and Blood Banner): 10

My only real dilemmas now are if I should keep the instrument in the third battalion or replace it with an icon, or if I should replace the second winged prince with a DP on foot with two malefic talons. The winged one can go much faster which is good and the artefact makes the sword quite dangerous, especially when used by a monster, but the one with two talons on foot has better attacks overall, takes up fewer points, and I won't have to spend the two extra CPs for the third artefact.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/03/15 12:23:30


 
   
 
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