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Made in nz
Dakka Veteran




New Zealand

Hail

When you take mallex from the blackstone fortress list you can take a few units (ie beastmen and rouge psychers) without using a detachment slot. My question is if you take him as apart of a black legion detachment can you still take the unit since they don’t use a slot within the detachment?

Thank you

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Made in gb
Norn Queen






 ulfhednir86 wrote:
Hail

When you take mallex from the blackstone fortress list you can take a few units (ie beastmen and rouge psychers) without using a detachment slot. My question is if you take him as apart of a black legion detachment can you still take the unit since they don’t use a slot within the detachment?

Thank you
Only the Black Legionaries. The others don't have the BLACK LEGION keyword. Not taking up a detachment slot doesn't exempt them from the detachment keyword restrictions.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/03/07 21:31:55


 
   
Made in nz
Dakka Veteran




New Zealand

 BaconCatBug wrote:
 ulfhednir86 wrote:
Hail

When you take mallex from the blackstone fortress list you can take a few units (ie beastmen and rouge psychers) without using a detachment slot. My question is if you take him as apart of a black legion detachment can you still take the unit since they don’t use a slot within the detachment?

Thank you
Only the Black Legionaries. The others don't have the BLACK LEGION keyword.



Thank you for the fast reply
So the fact that beastmen and rogue psychers will not take a slot in the detachment doesnt make a difference?
   
Made in gb
Norn Queen






 ulfhednir86 wrote:
 BaconCatBug wrote:
 ulfhednir86 wrote:
Hail

When you take mallex from the blackstone fortress list you can take a few units (ie beastmen and rouge psychers) without using a detachment slot. My question is if you take him as apart of a black legion detachment can you still take the unit since they don’t use a slot within the detachment?

Thank you
Only the Black Legionaries. The others don't have the BLACK LEGION keyword.



Thank you for the fast reply
So the fact that beastmen and rogue psychers will not take a slot in the detachment doesnt make a difference?
It does not. They don't take any slots but are still a part of that detachment. If you want to use them in Matched Play you need to make a SERVANTS OF THE ABYSS detachment.
   
Made in nz
Dakka Veteran




New Zealand

 BaconCatBug wrote:
 ulfhednir86 wrote:
 BaconCatBug wrote:
 ulfhednir86 wrote:
Hail

When you take mallex from the blackstone fortress list you can take a few units (ie beastmen and rouge psychers) without using a detachment slot. My question is if you take him as apart of a black legion detachment can you still take the unit since they don’t use a slot within the detachment?

Thank you
Only the Black Legionaries. The others don't have the BLACK LEGION keyword.



Thank you for the fast reply
So the fact that beastmen and rogue psychers will not take a slot in the detachment doesnt make a difference?
It does not. They don't take any slots but are still a part of that detachment. If you want to use them in Matched Play you need to make a SERVANTS OF THE ABYSS detachment.


Sad gw hates us traitor guard players and make it impossible to play them competitively but thank you again.
   
Made in us
Lieutenant General





Florence, KY

 ulfhednir86 wrote:
Sad gw hates us traitor guard players and make it impossible to play them competitively but thank you again.

Or the SERVANTS OF THE ABYSS keyword will be expanded upon in a future codex or campaign book.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
Made in nz
Dakka Veteran




New Zealand

 Ghaz wrote:
 ulfhednir86 wrote:
Sad gw hates us traitor guard players and make it impossible to play them competitively but thank you again.

Or the SERVANTS OF THE ABYSS keyword will be expanded upon in a future codex or campaign book.

I hope your right but they still limit the numbers of how many of each unit type you can take which means you can only take them as a patrol and we don’t have any stratagems making them awesome but no where near competitive unless they remove the limitations, give us stratagems and more hqs.
   
Made in au
Frenzied Berserker Terminator






Servants of the Abyss were only ever intended to allow people to use the excellent Black Fortress models in thematic games. It was never intended as a standalone army.

I hope that GW does eventually release proper rules for renegade guard (they keep mentioning them in the fluff!), but SotA were never intended to be that.
   
Made in ch
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





 Cheexsta wrote:
Servants of the Abyss were only ever intended to allow people to use the excellent Black Fortress models in thematic games. It was never intended as a standalone army.

I hope that GW does eventually release proper rules for renegade guard (they keep mentioning them in the fluff!), but SotA were never intended to be that.


There are rules, they just completely suck.

Thanks gw and FW for that one.

FW for writing one of the worst indexes ever and gw for further nerfing it.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
Made in us
Lieutenant General





Florence, KY

 ulfhednir86 wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
 ulfhednir86 wrote:
Sad gw hates us traitor guard players and make it impossible to play them competitively but thank you again.

Or the SERVANTS OF THE ABYSS keyword will be expanded upon in a future codex or campaign book.

I hope your right but they still limit the numbers of how many of each unit type you can take which means you can only take them as a patrol and we don’t have any stratagems making them awesome but no where near competitive unless they remove the limitations, give us stratagems and more hqs.

And when they release a proper codex with new kits then those datasheets will be replaced to reflect the options available in the new kits.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
Made in nz
Dakka Veteran




New Zealand

 Ghaz wrote:
 ulfhednir86 wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
 ulfhednir86 wrote:
Sad gw hates us traitor guard players and make it impossible to play them competitively but thank you again.

Or the SERVANTS OF THE ABYSS keyword will be expanded upon in a future codex or campaign book.

I hope your right but they still limit the numbers of how many of each unit type you can take which means you can only take them as a patrol and we don’t have any stratagems making them awesome but no where near competitive unless they remove the limitations, give us stratagems and more hqs.

And when they release a proper codex with new kits then those datasheets will be replaced to reflect the options available in the new kits.


You mean if they release one. We have been waiting and even genestealer cults got a codex before us and gw said they have no plans to give us a codex
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





Codex: Servants of the Abyss will be released just before Codex: Squats.
   
Made in ch
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





 doctortom wrote:
Codex: Servants of the Abyss will be released just before Codex: Squats.
aye.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
Made in nz
Dakka Veteran




New Zealand

 doctortom wrote:
Codex: Servants of the Abyss will be released just before Codex: Squats.

In other words never lol
   
 
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