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So if I was to do the 1st company of the Ultramarines that’s white trim ?

Also I’ve looked at the 1st company’s structure and it’s made up of 97 marines for troops now could that be intercessors and hell blasters?

Also why does no one parainfluenza he 1st company that much I see a lot of 2nd,3rd and 4th ? I love the white trim.

 Voltan wrote:
So if I was to do the 1st company of the Ultramarines that’s white trim ?

Also I’ve looked at the 1st company’s structure and it’s made up of 97 marines for troops now could that be intercessors and hell blasters?

Also why does no one parainfluenza he 1st company that much I see a lot of 2nd,3rd and 4th ? I love the white trim.

The 1st company is composed entirely of veterans. Sternguard and Vanguard Vets, Terminator squads, Venerable dreadnoughts, etc. It doesn’t have the assault/dev/tac squads of a battle company. So while with certain detachments/FOCs you could make an army entirely of 1st company, it would not be very balanced and have some severe table-top drawbacks.

Ok thanks for the info.

I’ll have to chose a different company.

I think you *could* get away with Intercessors at the very least. Paint them with the white helmets, play them in the Indomitus Crusaders Detachment, and make each unit "Veteran Intercessors". Then you'll get the fluffy +1 Attack and Leadership.

I wouldn't turn my nose up at Primaris units in the 1st company, be that an all-Primaris Chapter like the Fulminators, or a composite Chapter like the Ultramarines.

Most people don't choose 1st because they're not a Battle Company. They are, or have been, limited to Space Marine veteran units, like Terminators, Vanguard and Sternguard Veterans, and suchlike - Primaris don't have an equivalent yet, so it's unclear if they have any units in the 1st Company. As a result, you don't see Tactical Marines or such in the 1st Company because Tactical Marines simply can't be 1st Company (according to the Codex Astartes.)

Hopefully the Primaris get some new units that I can field as 1st Company.

The most popular are the 2nd, those with the golden shoulder pads.

Alex_85 wrote:
The most popular are the 2nd, those with the golden shoulder pads.

Yah, but they are a bunch of stuck-up jerks. All the cool kids play 3rd company.

You see a lot of 1st and 10th, vets and scouts, but usually just as auxiliaries to other companies.
2nd, with the gold/yellow and named character captain is probably the most popular battle company.
3rd, with red trim, is where it’s at, and probably the next most popular.
I think I’ve only seen one person paint the green of the 4th.
Never seen the black trim of the 5th.

After that you get into the reserve companies. I saw someone do bikes with orange trim once, but that’s it. If people are going to paint a company, it’s generally one of the battle companies (2nd-5th)

 Nevelon wrote:

Alex_85 wrote:
The most popular are the 2nd, those with the golden shoulder pads.

Yah, but they are a bunch of stuck-up jerks. All the cool kids play 3rd company.

You see a lot of 1st and 10th, vets and scouts, but usually just as auxiliaries to other companies.
2nd, with the gold/yellow and named character captain is probably the most popular battle company.
3rd, with red trim, is where it’s at, and probably the next most popular.
I think I’ve only seen one person paint the green of the 4th.
Never seen the black trim of the 5th.

After that you get into the reserve companies. I saw someone do bikes with orange trim once, but that’s it. If people are going to paint a company, it’s generally one of the battle companies (2nd-5th)

This is pretty accurate.

10th and 1st are common but only because people usually have Scouts or Veterans or both. They're rarely taken as a full army, but supplement another one.
2nd are popular because it's the most common depiction of the Ultramarines (in the same way 5th Company Imperial Fists or 3rd Company Blood Angels are), and because blue and gold look great together!
3rd and 4th are in similar spots, with 3rd being more common due to better looks, but 4th being popularised by the Ultramarines Uriel Ventris novels.
5th Company is surprisingly rare, which is part of the reason I'm doing an Ultramarines 5th Company Primaris force right now.

In general, the reserve companies are rare, but I see more of 8th and 9th than 6th and 7th.

What about just mix the squads of your army. Just pick those you want and add them to the company you like if they are be able to.

 Nevelon wrote:

Alex_85 wrote:
The most popular are the 2nd, those with the golden shoulder pads.

Yah, but they are a bunch of stuck-up jerks. All the cool kids play 3rd company.

You see a lot of 1st and 10th, vets and scouts, but usually just as auxiliaries to other companies.
2nd, with the gold/yellow and named character captain is probably the most popular battle company.
3rd, with red trim, is where it’s at, and probably the next most popular.
I think I’ve only seen one person paint the green of the 4th.
Never seen the black trim of the 5th.

After that you get into the reserve companies. I saw someone do bikes with orange trim once, but that’s it. If people are going to paint a company, it’s generally one of the battle companies (2nd-5th)

My own UM are all 9th Co.

The Black or Red trim looks nice.

Take a close look at the 2nd company spread in the codex, squads 11 & 12 are specifically stated to be from the 6th & 8th companies respectively, but instead of retaining their own markings as would have been done pre-Guilliman/8th edition they have instead adopted the markings of the company to which they are attached. I see no reason why reserve squads assigned to a force built around the 1st company wouldn't likewise adopt temporary 1st company markings.

Also FYI according to Insignium Astartes since the Battle of Macragge the Ultras 1st company has included a permanently attached veteran crewed Predator Annihilator named Gladius.

It was said on the last Voxcast that you do get veteran Primaris Marines who will be members of the 1st company. Feel fraa to paint your Intercessors, Reivers, Infiltrators or whatever with white shoulder pad rims.

Doesn't the whole structure fall apart now there are Primaris?

It used to make sense when there were companies, with X amount of tactical squads, Y of devastator a Z of assaults, but now that's torn up.

Are Primaris part of the company structure now? With the addition of Primaris to Ultramarines what happens to the old marines within a chapter?

Will the Codex Astartes be rewritten to reflect the changes?

Why not have several companies? Veterans from 1st, choose a random one for other ones (5 is cool yeah?). It'll help you differentiate between squads if they have different companies.

All those questions are answered in Codex Space Marines.

 Nevelon wrote:

Alex_85 wrote:
The most popular are the 2nd, those with the golden shoulder pads.

All the cool kids play 3rd company.

This man speaks the truth.
Besides, bright blue, and bright deep red go well together.