Which Primarch would win in a one-on-one fist fight?

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**Gordon Shumway**

I know you said no weapons allowed, but do you really think Kurze is going to follow your rules? He will have a blade hidden on himself somewhere.

**Gordon Shumway**

As far as we know, who was the first primarch to actively try to kill another? Was it Kurze vs. Dorn?

**Gordon Shumway**

BaconCatBug wrote:
Gordon Shumway wrote:
As far as we know, who was the first primarch to actively try to kill another? Was it Kurze vs. Dorn?
If we're discounting Russ vs the Mysterious Two, wouldn't it also be Russ and Angron? I am pretty sure Angron doesn't ever NOT actively try to kill anything he fights.

I fully refuse to believe the second legion's primarch is dead. GW saved it for conversions initially, and when their stock is in dire straits, they will come up with somnew army for it. When was the first Russ Angron fight? By my reckoning, Kurze v. Dorn was about twenty years before the heresy, a few years after Kurze was first let in on the Grand Plan.

**Gordon Shumway**

BaconCatBug wrote:
Russ vs Angron was also pre-heresy. Russ was genuinely worried about the increasing level of needless violence caused by the World Eaters and came to tell Angron to stop that crap. Angron outright asks Russ if he's been sent to kill
him by the Totally Not A God Emperor. Russ says no, not yet anyway, and asks Angron to come to Terra to get the Butchers Nails removed and to get his head fixed. Angron told Russ that the Emperor was just another slavemaster, and that he might go to Terra and try and kill daddy.

Needless to say, Russ did not take that very well.

Angron won the fight against Russ, and had Russ as his mercy, but wasn't so far gone as to take the Double Kill since he had a large chunk of Space Wolf legion pointing guns at him. Needless to say I doubt that at no point during that fight Angron would not have been trying to kill Russ.

Is there a novel that that story is told in? I ama bit behind in my reading of HH (for the love of all that you consider holy, if you haven't read The Three Body Problem trilogy, you are doing yourself a disservice t sci fi.) so I probably missed it.

**Gordon Shumway**

Heh, it's sort of like asking religious scholars to define something. Every example of something has an equal example of something else. Good on GW for making the lore of the gods of the stars similar to the gods of the earth.