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So I'm enjoying a lot of schadenfreude with the Varsity Blues arrests.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-accuses-wealthy-parents-including-celebrities-in-college-entrance-bribery-scheme/2019/03/12/d91c9942-44d1-11e9-8aab-95b8d80a1e4f_story.html?utm_term=.bdad27342308

The short form is the slightly rich (the seven and eight figure net worth types, not the really rich nine and ten figure ones) have been bribing people to get their mediocre kids into college.

(the truly rich just buy the school a new gym)

They'd bribe test proctors or imposters to take SATs, bribe coaches and recruiters to claim their kids were star athletes etc.

So far it looks like 50 or so folks are going to be arrested.

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 Peregrine wrote:
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
(the truly rich just buy the school a new gym)


And this is the key to it all: the problem is not that rich people are buying their way into college, it's that the kind-of-rich are trying to take advantage of a privilege that the really-rich don't want to share.


And the schools didn't get their cut

No I am thoroughly enjoying this brief moment of justice, even if worse offenders float above it all, at least some were scooped up.

The only thing that irks me are the commentators trying to ask if an ivy league (or similar) degree is really worth all this, and the answer is yes, really, truly yes.

Time is always limited and 'what school did you go to' tells people a lot in one word. I've seen it in cut throat, supposedly meritocratic private industries where unless your answer was on a very, very short list, nothing else mattered.

I'm a public school kid (barring a brief and regretaible dalliance with NYU) and know damn well that if I had more ambition I would get myself into a graduate or executive program at one of the right schools (or at least try). And if I ever say otherwise I'm deluding myself.

Besides that, even if you can show that education at a state school is just as good, there's the connections issue. Mark Zuckerberg started his little website company in a dorm room in Harvard, yay. Well that's a lot easier when your dorm mates come from the sort of families that can drop seven figures in start up money for you, or connect you with mentors and contacts who can raise things to the next level. I'm sure there's someone somewhere who started the CUNY-Queens-Connection.com but without those contacts it would never be a world wide corporation with a billion users.

Kyoto Secunda and her clone sister still have a few years before this is an issue, but yeah, that is the score. You can do fine without the top schools in your resume, you can always go for grad school, but getting to the top... it's a big leg up if not invaluable.
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Agree about the shallowness of the meritocracy ideal, which is why this is really the feel good story of the year.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/13/us/college-admission-cheating-scheme-wednesday/index.html

USC says students connected to cheating scheme will be denied admission

All University of Southern California applicants who are connected to the admissions cheating scheme will be denied admission, university spokesman Gary Polakovic said Wednesday.
A case-by-case review will be conducted for students who are already enrolled at USC and may be connected to the scheme. USC will "make informed, appropriate decisions once those reviews have been completed. Some of these individuals may have been minors at the time of their application process," he said.
The announcement comes a day after the nationwide scandal exposed what federal prosecutors describe as a corrupt exchange of wealth, fame and influence for student admissions to the nation's most elite universities.


Oh and the kids with the youtube shows are losing their sponsors.

Warms my heart really.
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Dr Dre knows the score, you don't go through a middle man, you go right to the source. $70 MILLION dollar donation to USC and shockingly his daughter gets in.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/dr-dre-deletes-gloating-usc-post-after-dollar70m-donation-backlash?via=FB_Page&source=TDB

Now I'm sure it was a legit donation, if he just wanted to buy a seat he could've gotten one for a lot less, but you can also be damn sure his daughter's application got a second, third and fourth look.

Maybe mask names in applications? Yeah sure sometimes it would be clear as glass who the application is from but it would help the process.
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 Frazzled wrote:
When I was in Cali, throwing sabre toothed tigers into the LaBrea tarpits because thats how I rolled, most of the UC schools were considered superior.

USC was for future real estate agents/developers and their future cheerleader wives.

Doesn't sound like that has really changed.


Yeah that was my feeling too, but I chalked it up to East Coast Elitism.
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 Frazzled wrote:


EDIT: I am not intending to slam USC. It is a good school. Its just not UCLA or UC Berkeley level.


So nothing you'd spend $70 million to get your kid in?
 
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