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Question:

If I can perform two 'End of Movement Phase' actions during my turn, do I have to pick just one I want to use that turn or can I use both during the end of my movement phase? For example, using the TS Dark Matter Crystal relic and also trying to use the Fabius Bile ability at the end of my movement phase.

They jury is out and the answer depends on whether you think "end of the phase" is a specific instance in time (in which only 1 action can be done), or a general period between 2 points (in which multiple can be done).
Threads have been locked because of the lack of consensus.

Best to just discuss with your opponent/TO

My personal bias leans towards "end of the phase" abilities being performed AFTER all the normal action of that phase are complete but BEFORE moving on to the next phase.
This allows for multiple "end of the phase" abilities to work. YMMV

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 Bach wrote:
Question:

If I can perform two 'End of Movement Phase' actions during my turn, do I have to pick just one I want to use that turn or can I use both during the end of my movement phase? For example, using the TS Dark Matter Crystal relic and also trying to use the Fabius Bile ability at the end of my movement phase.

Sequencing rule in the BRB covers this.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 Bach wrote:
Question:

If I can perform two 'End of Movement Phase' actions during my turn, do I have to pick just one I want to use that turn or can I use both during the end of my movement phase? For example, using the TS Dark Matter Crystal relic and also trying to use the Fabius Bile ability at the end of my movement phase.

Sequencing rule in the BRB covers this.

To clarity, Sequencing will cover when 2 abilities/rules occur at the same time and how/who resolves them.
It doesn't specifically answer if multiple actions can be done, which is the OP's question

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This is the kind of question that makes me wish 40k had a MTG-style comprehensive rulebook instead of whatever it's got right now.

coming from an mtg player, i'd say you can activate as many things as you want at the end of the movement phase and that you dont change phase until both players have activated everything they wanted to

Yes, you can use multiple abilities that have a timing of End of The Movement Phase. As BCB has pointed out, you use the Sequencing rule to manage all such abilities (your opponent may have some too).

Whether the end of the phase is a moment or a sub phase is irrelevant to this question, and I really hope this doesn't turn into that debate again.

In fact, just look for one of the old threads if you're interested in the arguments on either side, we really don't need to go over all of it yet another time!

There is no limit how many things can happen at the same time. The sequencing rule was written to resolve situations like this.

 Stux wrote:
Yes, you can use multiple abilities that have a timing of End of The Movement Phase. As BCB has pointed out, you use the Sequencing rule to manage all such abilities (your opponent may have some too).

Whether the end of the phase is a moment or a sub phase is irrelevant to this question, and I really hope this doesn't turn into that debate again.

In fact, just look for one of the old threads if you're interested in the arguments on either side, we really don't need to go over all of it yet another time!

Agreed.

I'm sure i read something from GW recently on when certain things happen. Can't find it now though.... I'm sure it was on WH community

It said something like start of phase actions are carried out, proforming all start of phase first. In phase actions are performed next, followed by end of phase. There was no limit to how many actions per sub phase

Yea, If this was the limit, it would mean Guard officers can only use 1 order since they say at the start of the phase, and since nobody does that, I assume your good.

 Dr Coconut wrote:
I'm sure i read something from GW recently on when certain things happen. Can't find it now though.... I'm sure it was on WH community

It said something like start of phase actions are carried out, proforming all start of phase first. In phase actions are performed next, followed by end of phase. There was no limit to how many actions per sub phase

They clarified for AoS in a graphic. Nothing so usefully final for 40K yet, so those determined to argue argue on.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

 Dr Coconut wrote:
I'm sure i read something from GW recently on when certain things happen. Can't find it now though.... I'm sure it was on WH community

It said something like start of phase actions are carried out, proforming all start of phase first. In phase actions are performed next, followed by end of phase. There was no limit to how many actions per sub phase

They clarified for AoS in a graphic. Nothing so usefully final for 40K yet, so those determined to argue argue on.

My mistake. You're right, I've founded it now. It's how i play it in 40k anyway. It makes more sense too.

Agreed.

 Dr Coconut wrote:
I'm sure i read something from GW recently on when certain things happen. Can't find it now though.... I'm sure it was on WH community

It said something like start of phase actions are carried out, proforming all start of phase first. In phase actions are performed next, followed by end of phase. There was no limit to how many actions per sub phase

Does this mean that end of phase actions are not occuring within that actual phase? And I can therefore multi-use stratagems that occur at the end of the phase?

 Tonberry7 wrote:


Does this mean that end of phase actions are not occuring within that actual phase? And I can therefore multi-use stratagems that occur at the end of the phase?

You can use multiple "at the end of the X phase" strategems / abilities in one turn, but you cannot use the same strategem/ability multiple times in the same turn (unless explicitly stated by the ability/strat).

Basically think off them as sub-phases that are still a part of the primary phase itself.

Sterling191 wrote:

 Tonberry7 wrote:


Does this mean that end of phase actions are not occuring within that actual phase? And I can therefore multi-use stratagems that occur at the end of the phase?

You can use multiple "at the end of the X phase" strategems / abilities in one turn, but you cannot use the same strategem/ability multiple times in the same turn (unless explicitly stated by the ability/strat).

Basically think off them as sub-phases that are still a part of the primary phase itself.

OK so that's different to end of battle round stratagems that aren't in a phase then

 Tonberry7 wrote:

Sterling191 wrote:

 Tonberry7 wrote:


Does this mean that end of phase actions are not occuring within that actual phase? And I can therefore multi-use stratagems that occur at the end of the phase?

You can use multiple "at the end of the X phase" strategems / abilities in one turn, but you cannot use the same strategem/ability multiple times in the same turn (unless explicitly stated by the ability/strat).

Basically think off them as sub-phases that are still a part of the primary phase itself.

OK so that's different to end of battle round abilities which aren't in a phase then

There is no absolute consensus on this, and it is something that results in huge debates that go nowhere when brought up here.

I have my own opinions, but I'm trying to avoid this thread going down that same route, so basically if it's relevant to what you want to do discuss it with your opponent before the game.

How many 'End of Movement Phase' Actions per turn?

As many as you want to use.