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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Per the IMBD trivia the shootout ambush was filmed at the actual location of the ambush. It certainly looked like that part of Louisiana.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Yeah it was good. I liked that they focused just on the investigators and not the perps, kept it much more concise and even. The movie also made me want to buy a BAR and Thompson. Which happens every time I watch a gangster movie of that era or an American WW2 movie.
Highlight of the movie for me was the discussion about Clyde between Clyde’s father and Hamer.
I wikipedia’d Hamer as soon as it was over. Good reading.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
I enjoyed this film very much, solid performances all around. I liked that for the most part the shots of Bonnie and Clyde were from the back, profile, or obscured.
Nels, it also made me want to get a BAR or a Colt Monitor.
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VictorVonTzeentch wrote: I enjoyed this film very much, solid performances all around. I liked that for the most part the shots of Bonnie and Clyde were from the back, profile, or obscured.
Nels, it also made me want to get a BAR or a Colt Monitor.
Yes very nice.
Its interesting that dimensions of the Ford are not that different than current crossover SUV's. Expand the trunk a little bit.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
I liked the fact the movie was much more historically accurate then the other movies on the same subject. The actors did a very fine job and the movie did a great job at representing the US society in the midwest during the dust bowl and the Great Depression. Those work camps were properly miserable.
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epronovost wrote: I liked the fact the movie was much more historically accurate then the other movies on the same subject.
Isn't there debate on how involved Bonnie was with the killings, though?This movie made her out to be the more active of the two in this movie.
Like :
Spoiler:
The part where Bonnie flips the cop over with her shoe so that he can see her before she blasts him, I thought I had read was made up by a particularly sensationalist reporter and wasn't corroborated by any involved parties.
She was definitely no angel, running with a crew like that, but I never thought she was so directly participatory.
Adding the limp was a great touch, though.
"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
There is conflict over whether she had shot the highway trooper.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
That was really my only "Wha?" moment(s) of the movie.
All the other details the epronvost mentions were really well done. A solid Netflix flick.
I got my 2 of coworkers to watch it tonight so we can talk about it tomorrow.
"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
nels1031 wrote: The part where Bonnie flips the cop over with her shoe so that he can see her before she blasts him, I thought I had read was made up by a particularly sensationalist reporter and wasn't corroborated by any involved parties.
She was definitely no angel, running with a crew like that, but I never thought she was so directly participatory.[/spoiler]
Adding the limp was a great touch, though.
I'm not anything like a specialist in turn of the century American criminal history, but from what I know, it's true that her involvement in the murders and even their robbery spree was limited amongst other thing due to her injuries (which, were atrocious). It's likely she never was an active participant in the murders and robberies, but was an accomplice to all those crimes none the less. At the time, being "an habitual criminal" was punished by death (it's Texas afterall). It's unlikely she ever fired a gun herself, though she apparently was thought to do so by Clyde. The idea of her as a machine gun weilding killer mostly comes from a gakky romance book.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
But didn't they already cover this with Christain Bale and Public Enemy? And years ago, Charles Bronson played Machine Gun Kelly.
I love American history, but they need to focus on battles such as Brandywine, or Bladensburg ,or the loss of South Carolina. Yeah, they were British victories, but some balance is needed.
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nels1031 wrote: Yeah it was good. I liked that they focused just on the investigators and not the perps, kept it much more concise and even. The movie also made me want to buy a BAR and Thompson. Which happens every time I watch a gangster movie of that era or an American WW2 movie.
Highlight of the movie for me was the discussion about Clyde between Clyde’s father and Hamer.
I wikipedia’d Hamer as soon as it was over. Good reading.
There are no Thompsons left. The British bought them all in 1940.
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: But didn't they already cover this with Christain Bale and Public Enemy? And years ago, Charles Bronson played Machine Gun Kelly.
Same era, different crew of criminals and agents. Historically there is some overlap, I think the dude who killed Dillinger (Public Enemy No. 1) was briefly on the B&C case. And the precursor to the FBI was involved in all of it.
"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: But didn't they already cover this with Christain Bale and Public Enemy? And years ago, Charles Bronson played Machine Gun Kelly.
Same era, different crew of criminals and agents. Historically there is some overlap, I think the dude who killed Dillinger (Public Enemy No. 1) was briefly on the B&C case. And the precursor to the FBI was involved in all of it.
The book on which that film is based is pretty good, and I would recommend it to anybody.
There were lots of similar gangs to B&R and Dillinger, operating at that time.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
Yes indeed. Hoover took a lot of credit for B & C to help get the FBI going.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
Pretty good flick. Slightly longer than it needed to be, but very enjoyable. Costner and Harrelson are both guys who have been more enjoyable to watch as they've aged. Never cared much for Costner in his younger days but his current stuff is really good (Open Range being superb, even The Guardian was excellent...3 Days to Kill was surprisingly fun, etc.).
But didn't they already cover this with Christain Bale and Public Enemy? And years ago, Charles Bronson played Machine Gun Kelly.
There's been plenty of films about Bonnie and Clyde; all of which are told from their point of view, and make them heroes. None of them to my knowledge focus on the lawmen. The title refers to Bonnie and Clyde, but they're not really in the film.
But didn't they already cover this with Christain Bale and Public Enemy? And years ago, Charles Bronson played Machine Gun Kelly.
There's been plenty of films about Bonnie and Clyde; all of which are told from their point of view, and make them heroes. None of them to my knowledge focus on the lawmen. The title refers to Bonnie and Clyde, but they're not really in the film.
Also Public Enemy, while awesome, was primarily about the Dillinger gang and related individuals. The highwaymen is almost a turn of the century western from the perspective of the law.
AND WITH COLT MONITORS OMG!!!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
So I saw the usual Netflix bumpers for it and wasn't really interested, then listened to an interview on the CBC (I think it was Hancock, but it may have been someone else involved in the production) and decided to give it a shot in Sunday.
And yeah, it was actually really, really good!
Spoiler:
It very clearly wants to diffuse the romantic image of Bonnie and Clyde (and the interview said as much) and for that reason any instance where Bonnie may have participated she does so and to the most teriffying degree, and the actual crimes of theirs we witness are limited to ambush-style roadside killings instead of the bank robberies the media of the time was so in love with.
In fact, the movie really wants to paint the media and celebrity culture with the same damning brush, between the crowds that flock to Bonnie and Clyde to the gas station attendant who tries to cover for them because he's so sure they only kill bankers and newspapers, radio programs and magazines that play them up as a modern Robin Hood.
There are a lot of standout scenes that are just people talking, and though the talk with Clyde's father is probably the best of those scenes my personal favorite is when Harrelson tries to bribe some Louisiana cops as a test of character and almost catches a pitchfork in the face.
and I'll watch it sometime.
