Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

++ Auxiliary Support Detachment -1CP (Chaos - FW Heretic Astartes) [8 PL, 134pts] ++

+ Dedicated Transport +

Terrax-Pattern Termite Assault Drill [8 PL, 134pts]
. Storm Bolters: 2x Storm bolter

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Daemons) [38 PL, -3CP, 714pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Khorne

Rewards of Chaos (2 Relics) [-3CP]

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Chaos [9 PL, 180pts]: Daemonic axe, Khorne, Skullreaver, Wings

Daemon Prince of Chaos [9 PL, 180pts]: Hellforged sword, Khorne, The Crimson Crown, Wings

+ Troops +

Bloodletters [12 PL, 214pts]: 26x Bloodletter, Bloodreaper, Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos

Bloodletters [4 PL, 70pts]: 9x Bloodletter, Bloodreaper

Bloodletters [4 PL, 70pts]: 9x Bloodletter, Bloodreaper

++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [38 PL, 624pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Black Legion

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord [5 PL, 74pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, No Chaos Mark

Chaos Lord on Juggernaut of Khorne [7 PL, 135pts]: 2. Flames of Spite, Bladed horn on Juggernaut of Khorne, Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Ghorisvex's Teeth, Warlord

Dark Apostle [5 PL, 100pts]: Mark of Nurgle

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 100pts]: 19x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 100pts]: 19x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 65pts]: 12x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [27 PL, 526pts] ++

+ HQ +

Sorcerer [6 PL, 98pts]: Bolt pistol, Force sword, Mark of Nurgle, Miasma of Pestilence, Prescience

+ Heavy Support +

Havocs [7 PL, 156pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Chainsword, Flamer
. 4x Havoc w/ reaper chaincannon: 4x Reaper chaincannon

Havocs [7 PL, 156pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Chainsword, Flamer
. 4x Havoc w/ reaper chaincannon: 4x Reaper chaincannon

Havocs [7 PL, 116pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Chainsword, Flamer
. 4x Havoc w/ heavy bolter: 4x Heavy bolter

++ Total: [111 PL, -3CP, 1998pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe


Idea is to load up slaanesh rotorcannon havocs into termite to clear screens for heavy hitting daemon princes and jugger-chainlord. The lord would benefit from khorne locus and crimson crown. Bloodletter bomb for extra killiness.

I am concerned about how few durable troops I have, and the number of moving parts t hst make it work. But should be a fairly competitive list.






Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also the brigade is a battalion. Whoops

Where is the termite?

Should be in battalion, but I had to take as aux at top, because battlescribe

Swap the sword prince to talons. I'd much rather have the extra attacks. You have the axe prince to deal with heavy threats, let the other one do medium work.

I'd drop the smaller Bloodletter squads and take 2x3 Nurglings instead. Your Letter Bomb has a 3d6+1 charge out of deep strike, so they don't need the reroll. Your Princes move 12", so they should be in range to charge and doesn't need the reroll.
The chance of rolling an 8+ on 3d6 is 83.8%, which is ~5/6. Building an entire detachment around the 1/6 chance that you'll fail seems like a bit of overkill, especially when you have a CP reroll available for that charge. (Or Gaze of Fate if you have some Tzeentch.)
I don't want to calculate what the CP reroll raises the chances to, but my guess is around 92%.

The switch to Nurglings will also give you a greatly increased durability. Despite being T2, they take a surprising amount of firepower to shift. And they aren't affected by morale, unlike the Bloodletters.

Agree with a lot of what is said above (although I like the king of blades relic) as most knights are characters and it'll help you run through a patriarch and the like.

I would put your chain lord on a bike though as you are investing a lot to make that one character a murder machine and with the bike you can fight twice for 3cp and have 14" movement for great threat range.

Also I think you'd be better running min squads of cultists or even just basic csm and bump up your daemon troops. A big squad of nurglings is great for screening/first turn charge/ distraction. Or 2x bloodletter bombs so you can drop the second turn 3 after you've cleared all the screens with chaincannon havocs etc.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

Nature's Minister wrote:
Should be in battalion, but I had to take as aux at top, because battlescribe

You can add the FW detachment as a 'child detachment ' in battlescribe. Instead of clicking roster click the csm battalion then FW heratic astartes.

Took me ages to figure out

want something more competitive respecting that list base, try this


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Daemons) [32 PL, -1CP, 636pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Khorne

Rewards of Chaos (1 Relic) [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Bloodmaster [3 PL, 56pts]

Daemon Prince of Chaos [9 PL, 180pts]: Daemonic axe, Khorne, Skullreaver, Wings

+ Troops +

Bloodletters [8 PL, 165pts]: 19x Bloodletter, Bloodreaper, Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos

Bloodletters [8 PL, 165pts]: 19x Bloodletter, Bloodreaper, Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos

Bloodletters [4 PL, 70pts]: 9x Bloodletter, Bloodreaper

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [32 PL, 564pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Black Legion

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord with Jump Pack [6 PL, 114pts]: 2. Flames of Spite, Chainsword, Ghorisvex's Teeth, No Chaos Mark, Thunder hammer, Warlord

Dark Apostle [5 PL, 100pts]: No Chaos Mark

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [9 PL, 150pts]: 29x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, Mark of Slaanesh
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [9 PL, 150pts]: 29x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, Mark of Slaanesh
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, Mark of Slaanesh
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [44 PL, 3CP, 797pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion [3CP]: Red Corsairs

+ HQ +

Master of Executions [4 PL, 70pts]: Mark of Khorne

Sorcerer [6 PL, 98pts]: Bolt pistol, Delightful Agonies, Force sword, Mark of Slaanesh, Prescience

+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 65pts]: 4x Marine w/ Boltgun, No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 65pts]: 4x Marine w/ Boltgun, No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 65pts]: 4x Marine w/ Boltgun, No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

+ Heavy Support +

Havocs [7 PL, 150pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Chainsword
. 4x Havoc w/ reaper chaincannon: 4x Reaper chaincannon

Havocs [7 PL, 150pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Chainsword
. 4x Havoc w/ reaper chaincannon: 4x Reaper chaincannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Terrax-Pattern Termite Assault Drill [8 PL, 134pts]
. Storm Bolters: 2x Storm bolter

++ Total: [108 PL, 2CP, 1997pts] ++
You can give sorcerer mark of Tz to have access to weaver of fate for your slam lord, MoE is there to fill HQ requirement, it is chep and can offer a decent counter charge, red corsair for some cp farm and backline obj holding, 21cp -4 for ds letter and -1 for skullreaver, you play with 16 cp's, decent body count, decent melee and firepower. Use a slam lord is better cause you can use some more powerful stratagems on him like votlw, on juggerlord you cant and he can fly and that's huge.

I've been going back and forth over how I'm going to run the chain lord. Can't decide between jump pack or bike. Bike moves further but can't fly or charge through ruins. Bike is much harder to snipe but jump pack is easier to hide. Maybe fly tips the balance although extra toughness and wound is appealing. Plus combi bolter for deamon shells...

iif was me i will keep my jp lord, in actual meta fly makes a big difference, without it 90% of times you will be doomed to charge some cheap screen then die, this of course if your opponent know how to properly play. About sniping i assume you play in a properly setup table if not is your fault