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++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [27 PL, 8CP, 537pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [5CP]

Legion [3CP]: Red Corsairs

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 183pts]: Malefic talon, Warp Bolter
. Slaanesh: Diabolic Strength

Huron Blackheart [6 PL, 105pts]: Warptime

+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 87pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Reaper Chain Cannon

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 85pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Missile launcher

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 77pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [23 PL, 8CP, 457pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Gifts of Chaos (2 Relics) [-3CP]

Legion [3CP]: Red Corsairs

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord [6 PL, 110pts]: Combi-melta, Maelstrom's Bite, Mark of Khorne, Thunder hammer

Master of Possession [5 PL, 98pts]: Cursed Earth, Force stave, No Chaos Mark, Sacrifice

+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 87pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Reaper Chain Cannon

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 77pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 85pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Missile launcher

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [53 PL, 5CP, 1006pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [5CP]

Legion: Black Legion

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Bringers of Despair

Stratagem [-1CP]: Council of Traitors

+ HQ +

Abaddon the Despoiler [12 PL, 2CP, 240pts]: Warlord

Dark Apostle [5 PL, 100pts]: No Chaos Mark, Trophies of Slaughter, Warpsight Plea, Trusted War Leader

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour [7 PL, 112pts]: Angelsbane, Combi-bolter, Death Hex, Force stave, Mark of Nurgle, Prescience, Veteran Raider

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [20 PL, 404pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Chainfist, Combi-melta
. Terminator: Chainfist, Combi-melta
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter

++ Total: [103 PL, 21CP, 2000pts] ++

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Having been a long time CSM player (going on 15 years now), seems like there is no better time to come out of the woodwork!

Looking for constructive criticism/thoughts as to what will be a problem for me. Lots of command points to burn on some very fun and deadly combo's, so do take that into consideration.

Thanks in advance!

You need more stuff to clear screens and chaff. Else, a good player will screen you out so that your big termi squad has no good targets when they deep strike in on turn 2.

I see, hadn't considered that. What would you recommend as a good chaff/screen clearing unit? My first thought is a simple rapier battery of some kind.

You can take havocs with reaper chaincannon for 8 S5 -1ap 1D. They only have a reach of 24” and cost 150p, but they can shoot twice if you take them as Slaanesh.

Equipping your CSM squads with a reaper chaincannon and champion with a combi-bolter (which you've already gone and done) would go some way towards chaff clearance.

I suggest a bike lord with the relic red Corsair gun, he can dish out six 4 -1 d2 shots and 4 4 0 1 shots, and if needed can move up to 20 inches and crush things with a thunder hammer.

I had considered the chain cannon option when making the list initially, but couldn't seem to find a way to make them fit.

Removed the jump pack from the Lord, and removed the combi bolters from the missile launcher CSM squads. Added the Warp Bolter to the daemon prince (had 3 points to spare).

Placing both of those squads within range of the location I want to bring in the termies should work quite well.

Definitely seems like a "all my eggs in one basket" list, but I'm very curious to see how well the turn 2 strike goes. It'll cost at least 7 CP's, but could easily be a game changer.

I run a similar style list with 2x daemon battalions, Scarab Occult Terminators and 4x daemon princes. It works well. You just need to make sure you screen well from deepstrike. I'm also not sure that you need the powerfists on the termies, you really want to keep them out of combat if you can and with 24"rapid firing bolters and a decent screen you can usually keep them out of combat well.

Don't know if you need 21CP so you could swap out one of the red cosair battalions for some nurglings or plaguebearers to set up a solid screen. But that might be more personal preference than necessity.

Other than that it looks a solid list

Power fists on the termies are to help with heavy LOW armour. Between them, Abby, and the DP, it's all the list has to combat Knights and Vehicles besides a couple missile launchers, just in case a couple volleys of shooting don't cut it. Ideally as a last resort as you mentioned.