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I still need to look over the SM strategems, so input there is welcome, pertaining to which chapter to chose. And I don't know if Iron Hands 6+ FNP is better than others. My paint is a generic black scheme that could be any chapter.

Otherwise, this has no subtlety, a devastator jab and two right crosses.
Or
Welcome back to 4th edition

Battalion
Librarian in T Armor - Force Ax & SB 114
Chaplain in T Armor - Crozius & SB 92
Chaplain - Crozius & BP 72 (likely gets Armor Indomitus)

Scouts x5
Scouts x5
Tac marines x10 plasmagun 141
Tac marines x5 plasmagun 76

Rhino
Rhino

Assault Terminators - 3 dual LCs, 4 TH/SS - 281
Terminators - x4 Pfists, x2 ChainFists, sarge's PSword, x1 Assault Cannon & SBs throughout - 256

Dev squad x8, x4 Missile Launchers - 184
LR Crusader - Twin Assault Cannon & Hurricanes - 264
LR Crusader - Twin Assault Cannon & Hurricanes - 264

1998 total

What is your plan against tanks or monstrous creatures?

I assume the terminators are riding in the land raiders? If the opposing army has a lot of ranged anti tank, they could pop those raiders midfield and leave the terminators out to dry. I do appreciate the style of terminators in raiders charging the lines, but its a lot of eggs in a couple baskets.

rooster92 wrote:
What is your plan against tanks or monstrous creatures?

4 Thunder Hammers, 2 Chainfists and 4 Power fists. The Devastator squad's MLs.

rooster92 wrote:
I assume the terminators are riding in the land raiders? If the opposing army has a lot of ranged anti tank, they could pop those raiders midfield and leave the terminators out to dry. I do appreciate the style of terminators in raiders charging the lines, but its a lot of eggs in a couple baskets.

Teleport Homers can rescue a stranded unit of termies.

Revised: I have taken out an LRC along with its assault termies. 8e's meta just needs to be met with a lot more dakka, so I'm giving up the romantic notion of the h2h bad-assery (which in play won't actually be so bad ass). And now there's a second battalion for CPs.


Battalion Detachment #1
Librarian in T Armor - Force Ax & SB 114
Lieutenant with Jump Pack - likely get Shield Eternal Relic, maybe Pfist
Scouts x5
Scouts x5
Tac marines x5, meltagun 79
Land Speeder squadron x3, HBs & ass cans - 216
Whirlwind - Vengenace - 90


Battalion Detachment #2
Sgt. Chronus
Captain in T armor SB & power sword - 95
Tac marines x5 meltagun 79
Tac marines x5 plasmagun 76
Tac marines x5 plasmagun 76
Rhino
Rhino
Terminators - x7. The load out: x4 Pfists, x2 ChainFists, sgt's PSword, x1 Assault Cannon & SBs throughout - 256
Dev squad x8, x4 Heavy Bolters - 144
Thunderfire Cannon & Tech Marine 92
LR Crusader - Twin Assault Cannon & Hurricanes, M-Melta, SB - 286

1952 in points, so room for moar

i'd start filling those last points out with combi-weapons on sgts to pair with the special. they can be used every turn in 8th and allow you to give more responsibility to your marines

 GamerGuy wrote:
i'd start filling those last points out with combi-weapons on sgts to pair with the special. they can be used every turn in 8th and allow you to give more responsibility to your marines

Good idea. A buddy recommended this, too. I think the next GT is going to have a fairly strict WYSIWYG enforcement, which means I'd have to hunt up the bits (buy) and likely, simply build new sergeants from the ground up. I don't know if this warrants a facepalm or laughing emoticon.

Still, looking ahead for the summer season, I should do this.

Currently, and I'd appreciate a verification of correct & legal points spent (edits in orange, already). I have two different documents that say 1999 and the other 1997 points.

+ REPORTED ARMY FACTION: Space Marines - Ultramarines
+ TOTAL COMMAND POINTS: 13
+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 1997
+ POWER LEVEL: 138
+ ARMY FACTIONS USED: Adeptus Astartes, Ultramarines

Battalion Detachment 5CP - (Space Marines) [42pl, 628pts]

Ultramarines:

-HQ-

Librarian in Terminator Armor [9 pl, 114 pts] force axe, storm bolter
Lieutenant with Jump Pack [5 pl, 87 pts] Power fist, Relic: Shield Eternal, Warlord: Adept of the Codex

-Troop-

Scouts [6 pl, 55pts] x5, Bolt Pistol, Combat Knife
Scouts [6 pl, 55pts] x5, Bolt Pistol, Combat Knife
Space Marines [5 pl, 79 pts] x5, x1 Meltagun (removed)

-Fast Attack-

Land Speeders [12pl, 164 forgot the HB pointspts] x2, Heavy Bolter x2, Assault Cannon x2

-Heavy Support-

Whirlwind [5pl, 90pts] x1, Whirlwind Vengeance Launcher

-Transport-

Rhino [4pl, 72pts] x1, Storm Bolter
Rhino [4pl, 72pts] x1, Storm Bolter


Battalion Detachment 5CP - (Space Marines) [96pl, 1371pts]

Ultramarines:

-HQ-

Sergeant Chronus [2pl, 30pts] x1, Servo Arm, Bolt Pistol, Krak and Frag Grenades

Captain in Terminator Armor [9pl, 101pts] x1, Power Sword, Storm Bolter

-Troop-

Space Marines [5 pl, 76 pts] x5, x1 Plasmagun

Space Marines [5 pl, 75 pts] x5, x1 Flamer, x1 Power Sword
(removed for HB points)
Space Marines [5 pl, 75 pts] x5, x1 Flamer, x1 Power Sword

-Elite-
Terminators [24pl, 256pts] x7, x4 Power fists, x2 Chain Fists, x1 Power Sword, x1Assault Cannon, x6 Storm Bolters

-Heavy Support-
Devastator Squad [11pl, 184pts] x8, x4 Missile Launcher
Devastator Squad [11pl, 144pts] x8, x4 Heavy Bolter
Land Raider Crusader [16pl, 288pts] x1, Twin Assault Cannon, x2 Hurricane Bolters, x1 MultiMelta, x1 Storm Bolter