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Feel No Pain isn't a universal rule anymore, so as the question, does a roll to negate a wound also count towards negating mortal wounds?

For instance Tenacious Survivor (BRB P. 186) says, 'Roll a dice each time this Warlord loses a wound. On a 6, the Warlord shrugs off the damage and does not lose a wound.'
Does this include mortal wounds?

I would say no, as IIRC there are other FNP-rules which say "suffers a wound or mortal wound".

As a general rule, no - unless the rule in question specifies that it doesn't work against mortal wounds.

Where in the process of wounding a model does the model actually "lose" a wound? Is losing a wound different to suffering a wound?

If losing a wound is the point where you reduce the wounds characteristic, then this will apply to mortal wounds also.

BRB update 1.3

Q: Can abilities such as Disgustingly Resilient be used to ignore
wounds if they were inflicted by mortal wounds?
A: Yes.

A Mortal Wound causes the model to lose a wound so yes you get a save vs it from a FnP variant.

Some do, some don't

Though people refer to them collectively as "Feel no Pains" in the pre-8th terminology, they are all separate rules that can work slightly differently from each other.

Things like House Taranis Knight "FnP"s, the new Eversor-Stratagem FnP, etc.. don't work against Mortals. The Custodes FnP only works against mortals in the psychic phase, etc., etc..,


There's lots of variety. If in doubt, read the specific rule.

In this case, the trigger is the warlord losing a wound, not on receiving a wound - which happens whether the warlord receives a mortal or a non-mortal wound.

That said, P5Freak's cited FAQ specifically says "such as Disgustingly Resiliant", so is a broad ruling not a narrow one (applies to more than just the named ability). So we have an authoritative answer.

The GW rules team has already addressed this.
as p5freak stated above:
Q: Can abilities such as Disgustingly Resilient be used to ignore wounds if they were inflicted by mortal wounds?
A: Yes.

So yes any FNP type ability is by the book able to save versus mortal wounds, No matter the wording of the ability.
It is in the basic rule rook errata.

Unless said ability says otherwise.