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2019/04/28 20:19:37
Subject: Two units using the "fight again" stratagem...?
so during the last game I had this situation came up, which was solved by a roll-off but are there any actual rules for such an instance is the question.
To explain further, an ork boys unit charges a dark angels infantry unit. Orks do their attacks, and after removing any casualties, the dark angels return the favor. But, after the dark angels finish their attack and the ork player removes casualties, and the consolidate, BOTH the orks and the dark angels' player declares that they are using their respective "fight again" stratagems, that is : "get stuck in, ladz!" for orks and "honour the chapter" for the DA.
So which army gets to use their stratagem first?
2019/04/28 20:22:48
Subject: Two units using the "fight again" stratagem...?
It appears it was the Ork army's turn since they charged. In c case like this the sequencing rule states that for two things happening simultaneously happen in an order chosen by the person whose turn it is. So, in this case, the Ork player would determine who gets to use their stratagem first.
2019/04/28 20:27:51
Subject: Two units using the "fight again" stratagem...?
You would only need to use the sequencing rule if you let it go to the end of the fight phase. The Ork stratagem has a slightly different wording that makes it a little better.
Spoiler:
The Ork stratagem says "when it is your turn to select a unit to fight, or at the end of the Fight phase"
The better way to play this would have been:
Ork Charge, Ork fights first due to charge. Ork now gets to pick a unit to fight with as it is their turn, spend the CPs, and pick that same unit to fight again. This is the same way Chaos Berzerkers work, without spending CPs.
Now, it is the dark angels' turn to pick a unit to fight with. They can pick that unit if there are any left to fight with, once that is resolved, the Ork player checks for any other units that might be able to fight or pass if none are availible. The Dark Angels player checks for other units that can fight and then passes if none. It then moves to the end of the phase, the dark angels can now spends CPs, and picks that unit to fight again.
Never mind, errata put stratagem similar to most of the others...
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/04/28 23:41:22
2019/04/28 23:37:27
Subject: Two units using the "fight again" stratagem...?
Draco765 wrote: You would only need to use the sequencing rule if you let it go to the end of the fight phase. The Ork stratagem has a slightly different wording that makes it a little better.
The Ork stratagem says "when it is your turn to select a unit to fight, or at the end of the Fight phase"
The better way to play this would have been:
Ork Charge, Ork fights first due to charge. Ork now gets to pick a unit to fight with as it is their turn, spend the CPs, and pick that same unit to fight again. Tthis is the same way Chaos Berzerkers work, without spending CPs.
Now, it is the dark angels' turn to pick a unit to fight with. They can pick that unit if there are any left to fight with, once that is resolved, the Ork player checks for any other units that might be able to fight or pass if none are availible. The Dark Angels player checks for other units that can fight and then passes if none. It then moves to the end of the phase, the dark angels can now spends CPs, and picks that unit to fight again.
The Ork Stratagem got errata'd to be "Use this Stratagem at the end of the Fight phase."
2019/04/28 23:38:58
Subject: Two units using the "fight again" stratagem...?
Draco765 wrote: You would only need to use the sequencing rule if you let it go to the end of the fight phase. The Ork stratagem has a slightly different wording that makes it a little better.
The Ork stratagem says "when it is your turn to select a unit to fight, or at the end of the Fight phase"
The better way to play this would have been:
Ork Charge, Ork fights first due to charge. Ork now gets to pick a unit to fight with as it is their turn, spend the CPs, and pick that same unit to fight again. Tthis is the same way Chaos Berzerkers work, without spending CPs.
Now, it is the dark angels' turn to pick a unit to fight with. They can pick that unit if there are any left to fight with, once that is resolved, the Ork player checks for any other units that might be able to fight or pass if none are availible. The Dark Angels player checks for other units that can fight and then passes if none. It then moves to the end of the phase, the dark angels can now spends CPs, and picks that unit to fight again.
The Ork Stratagem got errata'd to be "Use this Stratagem at the end of the Fight phase."
Ah, yup, silly me forgot to check errata. Never mind then. Sequencing rule fully applies then. That does bring it in line with most of the other "fight again" stratagems.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/04/28 23:39:44
2019/04/29 08:10:09
Subject: Re:Two units using the "fight again" stratagem...?
