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Made in gb
Been Around the Block





Looking for feedback on this list.

First Draft:

Spoiler:
All of the hunter killer missiles pop tanks from the start, the hellhound and chimeras roll up and tie the enemy up, allowing Tim for the tanks to take out any armour. The sentinels harras light armour and the malcador and leman russ executioner are for hordes.



Renegades

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Renegades & Heretics) [91 PL, 1500pts, 4CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [1CP]

+ HQ +

Malefic Lord [4 PL, 80pts]: 3. Tenacious Survivor, Creeping Terror, Warlord, Warp Flux

+ Elites +

Renegade Marauder Squad [4 PL, 46pts]: Hereteks
. Marauder Chief: Laspistol, Power maul
. 2x Marauder With Autogun
. Marauder With Special Weapon: Flamer
. Marauder With Special Weapon: Flamer

Renegade Marauder Squad [4 PL, 34pts]: Stalkers
. Marauder Chief: Autogun
. 2x Marauder With Autogun
. Marauder With Special Weapon: Sniper rifle
. Marauder With Special Weapon: Sniper rifle

+ Fast Attack +

Armoured Sentinels [9 PL, 138pts]
. Armoured Sentinel: Autocannon, Hunter-killer missile
. Armoured Sentinel: Autocannon, Hunter-killer missile
. Armoured Sentinel: Autocannon, Hunter-killer missile

Armoured Sentinels [9 PL, 138pts]
. Armoured Sentinel: Autocannon, Hunter-killer missile
. Armoured Sentinel: Autocannon, Hunter-killer missile
. Armoured Sentinel: Autocannon, Hunter-killer missile

Hellhounds [6 PL, 123pts]
. Hellhound: Heavy flamer, Hunter-killer missile, Track Guards, Turret-mounted Inferno Cannon

+ Heavy Support +

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [30 PL, 495pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Hunter-killer missile, Lascannon, Vanquisher Battle Cannon
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Exterminator Autocannon, Heavy bolter, Heavy Bolters, Hunter-killer missile
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Hunter-killer missile, Lascannon, Vanquisher Battle Cannon

Malcador Defender [15 PL, 282pts]: Demolisher Siege Cannon, 5x Heavy bolter, Heavy bolter, Hunter-killer missile

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chimera [5 PL, 82pts]: Heavy bolter, Heavy bolter, Hunter-killer missile

Chimera [5 PL, 82pts]: Heavy bolter, Heavy bolter, Hunter-killer missile

++ Total: [91 PL, 4CP, 1500pts] ++



Second draft:

Thanks for the reply's.

I've had a re-work and spent the HKM points elsewhere on the list and changed the Leman Russ Vanquishers for regular Battle Cannons.

Also now thinking of the two Marauder squads with the Lord in the Chimera, roll up the field with the 3 Hellhounds and go after hordes, lots of flamers etc.

The scout sentinels to push forward from the start and tie up assault to buy the tanks more time to shoot, also taking shots at light armour.

The BC+Lascannon Leman Russes take aim at any enemy armour, the Exterminator at light armour/flyers. The Malcador pushes forward and supports the Hellhounds from behind.

Thoughts? Any glaring weaknesses??


Renegades

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Renegades & Heretics) [86 PL, 1500pts, 4CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [1CP]

+ HQ +

Malefic Lord [4 PL, 80pts]: 3. Tenacious Survivor, Creeping Terror, Warlord, Warp Flux

+ Elites +

Renegade Marauder Squad [4 PL, 47pts]: Hereteks
. Marauder Chief: Bolt pistol, Power maul
. 2x Marauder With Brutal Assault weapon + autopistol
. Marauder With Special Weapon: Flamer
. Marauder With Special Weapon: Flamer

Renegade Marauder Squad [4 PL, 46pts]: Hereteks
. Marauder Chief: Laspistol, Power maul
. 2x Marauder With Brutal Assault weapon + autopistol
. Marauder With Special Weapon: Flamer
. Marauder With Special Weapon: Flamer

+ Fast Attack +

Scout Sentinels [6 PL, 120pts]
. Scout Sentinel: Autocannon
. Scout Sentinel: Autocannon
. Scout Sentinel: Autocannon

Hellhoundss [18 PL, 351pts]
. Hellhound: Heavy flamer, Track Guards, Turret-mounted Inferno Cannon
. Hellhound: Heavy flamer, Track Guards, Turret-mounted Inferno Cannon
. Hellhound: Heavy flamer, Track Guards, Turret-mounted Inferno Cannon

+ Heavy Support +

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 163pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Exterminator Autocannon, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolters

Malcador Defender [15 PL, 276pts]: Demolisher Siege Cannon, 5x Heavy bolter, Heavy bolter

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chimera [5 PL, 89pts]: Heavy flamer, Multi Laser, Track Guards

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/05/01 16:44:16


 
   
Made in ch
Potent Possessed Daemonvessel





i don't quite get the Flamers on the marauders.
I also think you could better invest the hunter killer missiles.
Vanquishers are sadly worse then regular BC against tanks and infantry, so i would instead use them as regular BC's.
I would keep the ML on the chimeras over the HB (cheaper by 3 pts) .

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A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
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10'000 + years of veterancy, or some raidy Boys?
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Made in us
Mighty Chosen Warrior of Chaos





The Wastes of Krieg

Personally i would cut the HK missiles. I never use one-shot weapons because they rarely go off.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, I would advise against having to much focus on Marauders, one bad roll and the entire unit deserts

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/04/30 21:33:47


 
   
Made in ch
Potent Possessed Daemonvessel





DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
Personally i would cut the HK missiles. I never use one-shot weapons because they rarely go off.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, I would advise against having to much focus on Marauders, one bad roll and the entire unit deserts


Command rerolls?

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page

A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
_______________________________

Who would win:
10'000 + years of veterancy, or some raidy Boys?
(Not Online in regards to the new Red Corsair battalion CP boost.) 
   
Made in us
Mighty Chosen Warrior of Chaos





The Wastes of Krieg

I never bet on rerolls for anything.
   
Made in ch
Potent Possessed Daemonvessel





DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
I never bet on rerolls for anything.

1/6 x 1/6 is once in 36 times you double fail the morale for marauders, that's nothing.
Also marauders are a 6ppm model so a whole squad running off is just at worst 56 pts. That is nothing.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page

A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
_______________________________

Who would win:
10'000 + years of veterancy, or some raidy Boys?
(Not Online in regards to the new Red Corsair battalion CP boost.) 
   
Made in gb
Been Around the Block





Thanks for the reply's.

I've had a re-work and spent the HKM points elsewhere on the list and changed the Leman Russ Vanquishers for regular Battle Cannons.

Also now thinking of the two Marauder squads with the Lord in the Chimera, roll up the field with the 3 Hellhounds and go after hordes, lots of flamers etc.

The scout sentinels to push forward from the start and tie up assault to buy the tanks more time to shoot, also taking shots at light armour.

The BC+Lascannon Leman Russes take aim at any enemy armour, the Exterminator at light armour/flyers. The Malcador pushes forward and supports the Hellhounds from behind.

Thoughts? Any glaring weaknesses??


Renegades

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Renegades & Heretics) [86 PL, 1500pts, 4CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [1CP]

+ HQ +

Malefic Lord [4 PL, 80pts]: 3. Tenacious Survivor, Creeping Terror, Warlord, Warp Flux

+ Elites +

Renegade Marauder Squad [4 PL, 47pts]: Hereteks
. Marauder Chief: Bolt pistol, Power maul
. 2x Marauder With Brutal Assault weapon + autopistol
. Marauder With Special Weapon: Flamer
. Marauder With Special Weapon: Flamer

Renegade Marauder Squad [4 PL, 46pts]: Hereteks
. Marauder Chief: Laspistol, Power maul
. 2x Marauder With Brutal Assault weapon + autopistol
. Marauder With Special Weapon: Flamer
. Marauder With Special Weapon: Flamer

+ Fast Attack +

Scout Sentinels [6 PL, 120pts]
. Scout Sentinel: Autocannon
. Scout Sentinel: Autocannon
. Scout Sentinel: Autocannon

Hellhoundss [18 PL, 351pts]
. Hellhound: Heavy flamer, Track Guards, Turret-mounted Inferno Cannon
. Hellhound: Heavy flamer, Track Guards, Turret-mounted Inferno Cannon
. Hellhound: Heavy flamer, Track Guards, Turret-mounted Inferno Cannon

+ Heavy Support +

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 163pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Exterminator Autocannon, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolters

Malcador Defender [15 PL, 276pts]: Demolisher Siege Cannon, 5x Heavy bolter, Heavy bolter

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chimera [5 PL, 89pts]: Heavy flamer, Multi Laser, Track Guards


++ Total: [91 PL, 4CP, 1500pts] ++
   
Made in ch
Potent Possessed Daemonvessel





Is the Malcador neccesarry?

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A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
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Who would win:
10'000 + years of veterancy, or some raidy Boys?
(Not Online in regards to the new Red Corsair battalion CP boost.) 
   
Made in gb
Been Around the Block





I really like the Malcador model, plus with 7 heavy bolters it's pasrt of my anti horde tactics, could it be better replaced by something else?
   
Made in ch
Potent Possessed Daemonvessel





tenclaw wrote:
I really like the Malcador model, plus with 7 heavy bolters it's pasrt of my anti horde tactics, could it be better replaced by something else?


Literally every leman russ, for half the price, remember the Malcador dosen't double up on shots sadly.
And even if he would, he is still out matched due to the price level allowing in 2 kitted out Leman russes in.


That comes from someone who also loves the model (any malcador really), but remember you are allready playing a faction that is rulewise the bottom of the barrel allready.

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10'000 + years of veterancy, or some raidy Boys?
(Not Online in regards to the new Red Corsair battalion CP boost.) 
   
 
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