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Son of a bitch.

I LITERALLY just bought the 5th edition book last week..

Voss wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
Son of a bitch.

I LITERALLY just bought the 5th edition book last week..

Going to be honest, bad call. They bolloxed up 5th pretty much completely. 6th is looking like an even bigger trainwreck, hilariously.

Shadowrun pretty much is a pick your poison of third or fourth, with a lean toward avoiding Catalyst as incompetent buffoons with no business with their hands on any game system.

TBH after having finally sat down to read through this book, it's a mess. This game is obscenely complicated for no reason at all. Just trying to figure out how to create a character took me almost two full hours and I still had a laundry list of questions as to things I did that I was unsure of the legality of.

By Contrast, I just picked up Star Trek Adventures and let me tell you, that is a well put together game, easy to learn and fun as hell to play!

 John Prins wrote:
Shadowrun has always been one of the more complex games, but 5th Edition was just badly organized and edited. There were some good ideas but the execution is incredibly terrible.

There is no need for the game to be as complex as it is, so in the end my group and I decided it wasn't worth out time and moved on to other RPG systems. It's unfortunate, but a lot of us aren't spreadsheet wizards and don't want to spend half our session arguing over what you can, and cannot do.

I understand that about 60 pages of the book were accidentally "not printed" and that they had to put them out in PDF form on launch day so that players who bought the book would have all they need to play?