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Made in us
Yellin' Yoof





So the list should be pretty obvious but I plan on throwing the Rhino's filled with Khorne at them. I'll use the blob of people to walk upwards and fire off kakophoni plasma with Huron to back it up. The lord and champ ride the party van and the sorcerer jumps down and blows stuff, while making the other kakophoning terminator's better. I want to be as competitive as this type of list can be. I say this because my shop tries to be competitive but they are not very good at it and don't try to study. I don't want to be that guy.

I've shown this list to some one and got some great feedback. I'm wanting to cement a list as much as possible so I can start buying towards it, thank you.


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [22 PL, 4CP, 403pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [5CP]

Gifts of Chaos (1 Relic) [-1CP]

Legion: Renegade Chapters

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord [5 PL, 100pts]: No Chaos Mark, Plasma pistol, Thunder hammer

Exalted Champion [5 PL, 74pts]: Bolt pistol, No Chaos Mark, Power sword, The Murder Sword

+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 83pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ special weapon: Autocannon, Flamer

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 73pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ special weapon: Flamer

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 73pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ special weapon: Flamer

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [37 PL, 12CP, 735pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Legion [3CP]: Red Corsairs

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 183pts]: Intoxicating Elixir, Malefic talon, Reaver Lord Artefact, Slaanesh, Warp bolter

Huron Blackheart [6 PL, 1CP, 105pts]: Prescience, Reaver Lord, Warlord

+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [14 PL, 293pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-plasma
. 17x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun
. Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 77pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 77pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [53 PL, 2CP, 862pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [1CP]

Legion [1CP]: Red Corsairs

+ HQ +

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour [7 PL, 112pts]: Combi-bolter, Force sword, No Chaos Mark

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [20 PL, 290pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 135pts]
. Berzerker Champion: Bolt pistol, Chainsword
. 7x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 7x Chainaxe

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 169pts]
. Berzerker Champion: Bolt pistol, Chainsword
. 9x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 9x Chainaxe

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, No Chaos Mark

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, No Chaos Mark

++ Total: [112 PL, 18CP, 2000pts] ++

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Made in ch
Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos





cut the flamers on the csm squads:
give the Termites some sort of weapon to make use of slaanesh (probably a reaper autocannon or 2)

Consider the fact that you somewhat lack in AT weaponry and don't have access to VotWL which means that you should probably get some more AT in the list.

you got 8+8+2 CP from detachments due to beeing red corsairs.
That is more then enough imo.
+3 from Battleforged and plus 1 from Huron that would be casually 24 CP.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page

A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
_______________________________

Who would win:
10'000 + years of veterancy, or some raidy Boys?
(Not Online in regards to the new Red Corsair battalion CP boost.) 
   
Made in us
Yellin' Yoof





Thanks! I honestly have taken your advice to heart but really don't know what to alter. I haven't played the game since sixth edition and am really lost as to the changes.

I'm making the list now so I don't waste money in the long run buying stuff I don't need. I like the models in here and honestly don't want two battalions but I am not sure if I can not afford to have the CP with the constant 2CP tax for either double shot or double fight.

The terminators and Berserker's where simple enough for me as is the blob of 20 with plasma. I can get my head around what to do with them. With tanks being what they are now I am at a loss as to how to take them down. I would love Havocs and a ten man squad with two chain guns and a combi bolter, but I honestly don't know what to build around or with.

Essentially I took HQs I know are good by looking at them, a blob of something I know is good by looking at them. Bersekers cause they sound like a fun project, and terminators because the deep strike double shot seems horrifying.

Thank you.
   
Made in us
Committed Chaos Cult Marine






This is pretty close to what I like to run.

Sorcerers are your friends in this edition, alongside Dark Apostles. I personally think they are both mandatory choices.

Having used the plas on the lord, I'd drop it. It never does anything and getting into CC is much more important. When supported well with a sorcerer and a DA, you can wound anything on a 2+ rerolling 1's with a 3++. Bring the Champion along with a chain axe and chainsword and you get more attacks and rerolles of 1.

For your terminators, I personally wouldn't run in them in that big a squad.

2 5 man squads (1 with Combi-Melta and 1 with Combi-Plas) Marked of Slanesh with Chain Axes and Icons of Excess can be brutal, especially to imperial armies.

The flamers are mostly useless. I'd cut them for Plasma guns, which is the only real viable way to run CSM squads.

Deamon Prince is a great idea, I really dig that kit out.
   
Made in gb
Crazed Spirit of the Defiler




Newcastle

I like the big termie squad. That many bolters firing (with strats) would shred blobs of chaff to pieces

CSM can have thunder hammers now?

Hydra Dominatus 
   
Made in us
Yellin' Yoof





 Snake Tortoise wrote:
I like the big termie squad. That many bolters firing (with strats) would shred blobs of chaff to pieces

CSM can have thunder hammers now?


That's what I was thinking. I'd love to add autocannons but am trying to figure out how. Yes the captains can now with the new codex.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
So after fiddling with some stuff. I stripped down my marines and did some tweaking to get this. Basically the party vans of Khorne escort my prince down towards who I want to kill. They can handle damn near everything save hoard. For hoard I pop down my termies who can deal with that easily. The prince and champ ride in the van. The sorc pops down with the termies and helps them shoot and keeps them moving. Lastly the regular marines add some extra dakka and cover objectives, the blob in particular escorting Huron to the middle objective where he pulls out a lawn chair and basks in his greatness.


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [37 PL, 12CP, 722pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion [3CP]: Red Corsairs

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 180pts]: Intoxicating Elixir, Malefic talon, Reaver Lord Artefact, Slaanesh

Huron Blackheart [6 PL, 1CP, 105pts]: Prescience, Reaver Lord, Warlord

+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [14 PL, 293pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-plasma
. 17x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun
. Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 77pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 67pts]: 4x Marine w/ Boltgun, Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter

+ Uncategorised +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [22 PL, 7CP, 370pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [5CP]

Gifts of Chaos (1 Relic) [-1CP]

Legion [3CP]: Red Corsairs

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord [5 PL, 95pts]: Bolt pistol, Mark of Khorne, Thunder hammer

Exalted Champion [5 PL, 74pts]: Bolt pistol, No Chaos Mark, Power maul, The Black Mace

+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 67pts]: 4x Marine w/ Boltgun, No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 67pts]: 4x Marine w/ Boltgun, No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 67pts]: 4x Marine w/ Boltgun, No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [53 PL, 2CP, 908pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [1CP]

Legion [1CP]: Red Corsairs

+ HQ +

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour [7 PL, 112pts]: Combi-bolter, Force stave, Mark of Tzeentch, Prescience, Warptime

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [20 PL, 306pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon: Chainaxe, Reaper autocannon
. Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon: Chainaxe, Reaper autocannon

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 184pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power axe
. 9x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 9x Chainaxe

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 150pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power axe
. 7x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 7x Chainaxe

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, No Chaos Mark

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, No Chaos Mark

++ Total: [112 PL, 21CP, 2000pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe


Automatically Appended Next Post:
After some tweaking. I think I like this list a lot better. It goes 50/50% Slaanesh Khorne. I think it can be stupid.



++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [57 PL, 11CP, 1021pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Legion [3CP]: Red Corsairs

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 183pts]: 3. Unholy Fortitude, Hellforged sword, Intoxicating Elixir, Slaanesh, Warlord, Warp bolter

Huron Blackheart [6 PL, 105pts]

+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [14 PL, 293pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-plasma
. 17x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun
. Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 67pts]: 4x Marine w/ Boltgun, Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 67pts]: 4x Marine w/ Boltgun, Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [20 PL, 306pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon: Chainaxe, Reaper autocannon
. Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon: Chainaxe, Reaper autocannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [52 PL, 5CP, 979pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [5CP]

Legion: World Eaters

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord [5 PL, 95pts]: Bolt pistol, Mark of Khorne, Thunder hammer

Kharn the Betrayer [8 PL, 120pts]

+ Troops +

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 188pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power fist
. 9x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 9x Chainaxe

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 154pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power fist
. 7x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 7x Chainaxe

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 188pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power fist
. 9x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 9x Chainaxe

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Mark of Khorne

++ Total: [109 PL, 16CP, 2000pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2019/05/04 05:58:39


 
   
Made in ch
Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos





++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [57 PL, 11CP, 1021pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Legion [3CP]: Red Corsairs

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 183pts]: 3. Unholy Fortitude, Hellforged sword, Intoxicating Elixir, Slaanesh, Warlord, Warp bolter

Huron Blackheart [6 PL, 105pts]

+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [14 PL, 293pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-plasma
. 17x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun
. Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 67pts]: 4x Marine w/ Boltgun, Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 67pts]: 4x Marine w/ Boltgun, Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [20 PL, 306pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon: Chainaxe, Reaper autocannon
. Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon: Chainaxe, Reaper autocannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [52 PL, 5CP, 979pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [5CP]

Legion: World Eaters

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord [5 PL, 95pts]: Bolt pistol, Mark of Khorne, Thunder hammer

Kharn the Betrayer [8 PL, 120pts]

+ Troops +

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 188pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power fist
. 9x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 9x Chainaxe

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 154pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power fist
. 7x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 7x Chainaxe

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 188pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power fist
. 9x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 9x Chainaxe

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Mark of Khorne

++ Total: [109 PL, 16CP, 2000pts] ++


Now this i like:
28 berzerkers in 3 busses with lord support,
another 30 marines of which 20 can be recycled, very nice, blackheart for a Power including his hamadrya and a hammer squad in form of 10 termites with reapers.

It's in your face, mobile, has 3 firemagnets and a guaranteed alpha strike with the termites.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page

A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
_______________________________

Who would win:
10'000 + years of veterancy, or some raidy Boys?
(Not Online in regards to the new Red Corsair battalion CP boost.) 
   
Made in us
Yellin' Yoof





Not Online!!! wrote:
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [57 PL, 11CP, 1021pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Legion [3CP]: Red Corsairs

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 183pts]: 3. Unholy Fortitude, Hellforged sword, Intoxicating Elixir, Slaanesh, Warlord, Warp bolter

Huron Blackheart [6 PL, 105pts]

+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [14 PL, 293pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-plasma
. 17x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun
. Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 67pts]: 4x Marine w/ Boltgun, Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 67pts]: 4x Marine w/ Boltgun, Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [20 PL, 306pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon: Chainaxe, Reaper autocannon
. Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon: Chainaxe, Reaper autocannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [52 PL, 5CP, 979pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [5CP]

Legion: World Eaters

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord [5 PL, 95pts]: Bolt pistol, Mark of Khorne, Thunder hammer

Kharn the Betrayer [8 PL, 120pts]

+ Troops +

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 188pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power fist
. 9x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 9x Chainaxe

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 154pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power fist
. 7x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 7x Chainaxe

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 188pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power fist
. 9x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 9x Chainaxe

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Mark of Khorne

++ Total: [109 PL, 16CP, 2000pts] ++


Now this i like:
28 berzerkers in 3 busses with lord support,
another 30 marines of which 20 can be recycled, very nice, blackheart for a Power including his hamadrya and a hammer squad in form of 10 termites with reapers.

It's in your face, mobile, has 3 firemagnets and a guaranteed alpha strike with the termites.


Awesome!! Got my list
   
 
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