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Are they able to fire both in the same turn, as well as the shoota (if possible)? What is going on here? "We gave the model a pair of sluggas, may as well give the codex entry an additional slugga, as well" sort of situation?

 General Malarky wrote:
Are they able to fire both in the same turn, as well as the shoota (if possible)? What is going on here? "We gave the model a pair of sluggas, may as well give the codex entry an additional slugga, as well" sort of situation?

The rules for the Pistol type weapon in the BRB answer your question here.

I am on a tablet and that "brb" is not "working". Could you please elaborate?

It is also available in the battleprimer.

The .pdf with the starter rules? Because that is all I have (that and the Ork codex)

A model can fire:

- All non-Pistol, non-Grenade weapons

OR

- All Pistol weapons

OR

- One Grenade (one modeL per unit)

Okay... Neat... Looked at the rules in the Dark Vengeance update thinger and I "get it", I assume. It has happened, before, that my comprehension of the rules is way off base. What I do not get is that It also says nothing about being able to fire sluggas after having advanced, while the assault and heavy entries do mention this.

I am too stupid and bitter to be out playing games with others and should just go back to hiding out and avoiding all contact with others because all I do is feth stuff up. No confidence in my own abilities.and knowledge to even play a stupid fething game (I could be referencing any game here, not just 40k. I want to like this, but I am just incapable of interacting with others in a reasonable fashion, obviously.)

You can’t fire after Advancing unless you’ve an a Assault weapon or some special rule that allows it.

Removed, Rule #1 please - BrookM

Having said, I don't believe Dark Vengeance was ever updated to 8th ed rulesets, so you're looking at a totally wrong book.
Second, the OP had nothing to do about shooting pistols after advancing, but: as counter productive as it sounds, you cannot fire any ranged weapons after advancing unless it is Assault type or has a special rules that tells oyu otherwise.

I just do not know what to believe, anymore...

Have a read though the Battle Primer instead of the Dark Vengeance book.

The forums should not be used as a replacement for the rules, even if the rules are freely available. GW gets snippy about that.

The Battle Primer and the Dark Vengeance book, that I had mentioned, have the same layout and content, as far as I can tell.

Neat that a Warboss does get two slugga shots... The value of being able to do that is questionable. Whatever, I guess...

Blah.... none of this is making sense...

 General Malarky wrote:
The Battle Primer and the Dark Vengeance book, that I had mentioned, have the same layout and content, as far as I can tell.

Neat that a Warboss does get two slugga shots... The value of being able to do that is questionable. Whatever, I guess...

Blah.... none of this is making sense...

One can suspect that it was a holdover from previous editions, where a pistol counted as a CCW and could grant an extra attack.

Well, pistols still attain that, just in the shooting phase (which, for Orks, is in "why bother?" territory)

i am just way-over thinking this... "A Warboss, with a PK, can still fire two sluggas while in melee?" It just does not make sense... Then again, with how my warboss survives, I can see all his guns having only been loaded with enough ammo for one turn of shooting......,.............

 General Malarky wrote:
Well, pistols still attain that, just in the shooting phase (which, for Orks, is in "why bother?" territory)

i am just way-over thinking this... "A Warboss, with a PK, can still fire two sluggas while in melee?" It just does not make sense... Then again, with how my warboss survives, I can see all his guns having only been loaded with enough ammo for one turn of shooting......,.............

What would "make sense" has no bearing on the ruleset.

How does it not make sense to shoot two pistols while being armed with a powerclaw in a world with Tyranids and psykers?

Suspension of disbelief. It is a game, the rules are what they are.

Real World Common Sense/Real World Logic/How it works in the real world has no bearing on the 40k ruleset.

Remember: The rules were not written to be "Modern day real world" logical.

The rules are an abstract system used to play a game.

What would happen in the modern day real world has nothing to do with the RAW, or the simulation of a battle fought 38,000 years from now. (and maybe not even on a planet with the same physical makeup as our earth, and probably different physics as well).

Clearly he had a Mek weld two sluggas together so that he could fire them simultaneously with one hand.

 General Malarky wrote:
Well, pistols still attain that, just in the shooting phase (which, for Orks, is in "why bother?" territory)

i am just way-over thinking this... "A Warboss, with a PK, can still fire two sluggas while in melee?" It just does not make sense... Then again, with how my warboss survives, I can see all his guns having only been loaded with enough ammo for one turn of shooting......,.............

Most common usage is if something like an autarch charges your warboss and fails to kill it despite the odds not being too bad, and then is not killed by your warboss due to good saves/bad hit rolls. On your turn you can use the two sluggas to shoot that bugger in the face twice before smashing him with the klaw.

Yeah, the 2 sluggas are so you can shoot the enemy twice in the shooting phase while you still in combat.
Statistically speaking, unless I fudged the math, you should have a 57% of hitting with one pistol.

As how a warboss can draw two pistols and still have a melee weapon? Well, Orks are clearly huge western fans and have learned the art of the quick draw. The Waaagh field allows them to be the best cowboys that ever was

IN SUMMARY

~My initial problem was why does the warboss have 2 sluggas? "A likely hold-over from previous editions"
~What is the point of 2 sluggas? (I derped on the fact that a model can fire more than one weapon a turn)
~While looking up the rules, I encountered another problem; shooting pistols after advancing. It does not make sense that they can not be fired, while assault and heavy can. Whatever, though, as pistols can be fired in melee while nothing else can.

I would say things have been resolved. Some stuff does not make sense, but neither does anything else in life, so why bother worrying?

And I like the idea of the Warboss having a Mek Speshul Sawed-Off Double-Barrel Slugga; That makes way more "sense" than 2 Sluggas.

Heavies can NOT be fired after Advancing. As others have said: only Assault can be fired after Advancing, or if you have a special rule allowing it.

Yeah, you can only fire heavy weapons if you have a rule that allows it, and most rules of that type changes the weapon type from heavy to assault.

*sigh* damnit... If it ain't one thing, it is another...

I wish I had a friend who played and we could sit down and work through the rules while playing. At least if we get stuff wrong, we would both be on the same wrong page, y'know? Going to the shop, for pick-up games, is having to learn a new set of rules for many matches. Or I could grow a pair and stand up for myself, but that would require confidence in the validity of the knowledge which I have absorbed.

 General Malarky wrote:
*sigh* damnit... If it ain't one thing, it is another...

I wish I had a friend who played and we could sit down and work through the rules while playing. At least if we get stuff wrong, we would both be on the same wrong page, y'know? Going to the shop, for pick-up games, is having to learn a new set of rules for many matches. Or I could grow a pair and stand up for myself, but that would require confidence in the validity of the knowledge which I have absorbed.

Perhaps there's a community( formal/informal games group or facebook/whatsapp group) for your local store? You could request an introduction game or two to help you get the rules down. Most communities welcome new players and its fun for jaded old timers to see the hobby with new eyes.

 General Malarky wrote:
The Battle Primer and the Dark Vengeance book, that I had mentioned, have the same layout and content, as far as I can tell.
...

Dark Vengeance was sold with an 8th edition update pamphlet/rule book for a little bit in the beginning of 8th edition.

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/xYz4a

Edit: And here’s a pic of what the cover looks like,

https://www.nobleknight.com/P/2147668281/Dark-Vengeance-Update-8th-Edition

So if that’s what you have, you have the correct rules. The game can sometimes be counter intuitive but you just need to play a few games and it will make more sense and become easier to understand. Everybody makes mistakes when they are learning so don’t worry about it too much.

Yup, that is the book I have been referencing. I have that and the Ork Codex and intend to pick up a proper rulebook sooner than later.

The reason they are equipped with 2 pistols is... they have them modeled on their boss pole.