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Hey guys so getting back into 40k since 8th.
Thinking of playing around with a small army I can build and play with a competitive group at my club.


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Deathwatch) [60 PL, 873pts, 8CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ +

Chaplain Venerable Dreadnought [11 PL, 192pts]: Twin lascannon
. Melee weapon: Dreadnought combat weapon, Storm bolter

Watch Master [7 PL, 130pts]

+ Troops +

Veterans [11 PL, 115pts]
. Black Shield: Chainsword, Storm Bolter
. Vanguard Veteran: 2x Bolt Pistol
. Veteran: Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Watch Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm Bolter

Veterans [11 PL, 115pts]
. Black Shield: Chainsword, Storm Bolter
. Vanguard Veteran: 2x Bolt Pistol
. Veteran: Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Watch Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm Bolter

Veterans [11 PL, 115pts]
. Black Shield: Chainsword, Storm Bolter
. Vanguard Veteran: 2x Bolt Pistol
. Veteran: Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Watch Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm Bolter

+ Heavy Support +

Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought [9 PL, 206pts]: Cyclone missile launcher
. Two twin lascannons: 2x Twin lascannon

++ Total: [60 PL, 873pts, 8CP] ++

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Then either mech list A

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) [48 PL, 619pts, 8CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Forge World Choice
. Forge World: Mars

+ HQ +

Belisarius Cawl [13 PL, 190pts]

Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 30pts]

+ Troops +

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 35pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 4x Skitarii Ranger

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 35pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 4x Skitarii Ranger

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 35pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 4x Skitarii Ranger

+ Elites +

Sicarian Infiltrators [6 PL, 90pts]
. Infiltrator Princeps
. . Stubcarbine and Power Sword: Power Sword, Stubcarbine
. 4x Sicarian Infiltrator (Stub/Sword): 4x Power Sword, 4x Stubcarbine

+ Heavy Support +

Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 102pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber, Twin Heavy Phosphor Blaster

Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 102pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber, Twin Heavy Phosphor Blaster

++ Total: [48 PL, 8CP, 619pts] ++

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Or mech list B

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) [45 PL, 646pts, 8CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Forge World Choice
. Forge World: Graia

+ HQ +

Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 30pts]

Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 30pts]

+ Troops +

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 35pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 4x Skitarii Ranger

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 35pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 4x Skitarii Ranger

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 35pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 4x Skitarii Ranger

+ Elites +

Cybernetica Datasmith [3 PL, 41pts]: Gamma Pistol, Power fist

+ Heavy Support +

Kastelan Robots [12 PL, 220pts]
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster

Kastelan Robots [12 PL, 220pts]
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster

++ Total: [45 PL, 646pts, 8CP] ++

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I have to play with the points a bit but that’s the ideas I have.

Don’t know about Skitarii but you definitely should get rid of the chaplain for a captain. Reroll 1s should be the priority for shooting.

Secondly, those vet squads are thin and have no terminators. That’s gonna hurt your CP strats and time of estoclades, which you didn’t even bring. Give each squad a terminator or two first. Get rid of the cyclone middle launcher too. That’s the price of two vets with 8 Storm Bolter shots .if you want an extra bit of AV, put plasma guns on all your sergeants in place of storm shields and you will gain 6 strength 8 shots with better AP for only 27 pints. Way better than middle launcher.

With the Watch Master you have full rerolls to hit. The Chaplain Dreadnouhgt is suposed to give DW a durable shooting plattform because of being a Character. It has worked well for me. Sometimes I put him with TLC and ML and if he is Warlord I put him like you, with the combat weapon for defend in CC.

About the Termis in Veteran squads, your Vets units are small. If they where bigger (with some FraggCannons for example) they would need Termis for morale. With this number of Vets, Termis are used to tank AP0 fire.

About the AdMec I can not help here, only you should use them for give your DW things you don´t have in DW.

On the SKitarii/AdMech side:

List 1:
1. there is currently no point in using Cawl - the only things he is buffing is 2x Onagers - not worth the points really. you need about 4+ dakkabots before he becomes viable.
2. Sicarians should be in a squad of 10 with Taser & Flachettes especially in a Mars list - 2CP for mortal wounds on 6's per shot when you shoot with a mars units each infiltrator has 5 shots with flachette for 50 shots - about 6-7 mortals per turn in addition to normal damage dropping in 9" away.
3. do not run phosphor on the Onagers - there is no point - for 8 points more per onager you might as well get 2 dakka kastellans which have better saves and more shots per model. you should run Neutron or Icarus really.

List 2:
1. A far stronger list.
2. unless you are taking Graia for the deny stratagem you may wish to consider Stygies instead -1 to hit on the kastellans will make your opponent tear their hair out - esp. when you keep healing them with the enginseers.
3. note that Graia refusal to yeild trait only activates on the loss of the last wound - you are basically wasting the trait on the kastellans - it is a forge world for lots of skitarii rather than the big boys.
4. you could save points on the Datasmith and instead use those points for Transuranic Arquebus on the rangers (some of the best snipers in the game currently) - you can get a much better & easier change of protocols using the stratagem (1CP) instead.
5. use the skitarii/Deathwatch to prevent units from locking up your Kastellans at all costs if 1 guardsman (4pts) gets in contact with them then the entire 220 pts unit will be unable to shoot the next turn.
6. consider using the Cybernetica Cohort specialist detachment from Vigilus it could come in handy.



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Personally I would be using somthing like the following:



Lots of wounds & firepower - make use of the Ryza stratagem for the plasma (if you overcharge them as well that is D6 shots per model that wound T7 & lower on 2+ for a flat 3 damage per shot...)
breachers are there as a sturdy meat sheild, and can occasionally plink off a few wounds on vehicles with the arc rifles
and the ironstrider has the equivelent of 4 autocannon shots per turn and can easily gain +2 to hit for 1CP allowing it to take on flyers/alitoc eldar etc. the Dominus is there to heal your kataphrons and allow re-roll ones on the plasma.
Everything (apart from the HQ's has T5 & 3 wounds or better making them quite hard to shift (if needed the Breachers could go for Aquisiton at any Cost stratagem 2CP to turn them into T5 3 Wound Terminators...)
to make this better you could go for the Servitor Maniple from Vigilus detachment to allow the kataphron destroywers +1 to hit for 1CP mitigating the overheating plasma.