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Available at warhammer community site. For me biggest change is overwatch no more counts as if shooting phase. Never got even chance to use bad moon reroll in overwatch

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They destroyed Tyranids once again for no reason at all.


Incompetents

KurtAngle2 wrote:
They destroyed Tyranids once again for no reason at all.


Incompetents

In what way?

 Togusa wrote:

KurtAngle2 wrote:
They destroyed Tyranids once again for no reason at all.


Incompetents

In what way?

Paroxysm does not deny anymore the use of Counter-attack stratagems for 2 CP and you can't double the run move anymore off Swarmlord's ability and Overrun stratagem

KurtAngle2 wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

KurtAngle2 wrote:
They destroyed Tyranids once again for no reason at all.


Incompetents

In what way?

Paroxysm does not deny anymore the use of Counter-attack stratagems for 2 CP and you can't double the run move anymore off Swarmlord's ability and Overrun stratagem

1. Paroxysm shouldn't able able to deny those strats, so I'm fine with it.
2. While a sad thing, does anyone run Swarmlords? I played this army for the first two years of 8th and found them to be the defacto worst unit entry in the entire codex. Much rather have Zoanthropes, primes or Flyrants.

 Togusa wrote:

KurtAngle2 wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

KurtAngle2 wrote:
They destroyed Tyranids once again for no reason at all.


Incompetents

In what way?

Paroxysm does not deny anymore the use of Counter-attack stratagems for 2 CP and you can't double the run move anymore off Swarmlord's ability and Overrun stratagem

1. Paroxysm shouldn't able able to deny those strats, so I'm fine with it.
2. While a sad thing, does anyone run Swarmlords? I played this army for the first two years of 8th and found them to be the defacto worst unit entry in the entire codex. Much rather have Zoanthropes, primes or Flyrants.

Yes, a lot do. Not sure your answer is serious as none of those units do anything what the swarmlord does which is to enable turn 1 charges with genestealers

KurtAngle2 wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

KurtAngle2 wrote:
They destroyed Tyranids once again for no reason at all.


Incompetents

In what way?

Paroxysm does not deny anymore the use of Counter-attack stratagems for 2 CP and you can't double the run move anymore off Swarmlord's ability and Overrun stratagem

Vexator Mask Artefact didn't deny counter-attack, but Paroxysm did, despite doing almost the same thing. Seems to me they wanted to make one ruling for everyone so the internal logical was more consistent

Looks like a typo in the chapter approved pdf. They added the new cost of the Castellan weapons to it as well as the knight faq but the Volcano Lance says 70 points instead of 60.

 Chris521 wrote:
Looks like a typo in the chapter approved pdf. They added the new cost of the Castellan weapons to it as well as the knight faq but the Volcano Lance says 70 points instead of 60.

Aren't those the page numbers for the Renegade Knights Index, meaning that those points costs are accurate?

Lemondish wrote:

 Chris521 wrote:
Looks like a typo in the chapter approved pdf. They added the new cost of the Castellan weapons to it as well as the knight faq but the Volcano Lance says 70 points instead of 60.

Aren't those the page numbers for the Renegade Knights Index, meaning that those points costs are accurate?

looks to be the case

KurtAngle2 wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

KurtAngle2 wrote:
They destroyed Tyranids once again for no reason at all.


Incompetents

In what way?

Paroxysm does not deny anymore the use of Counter-attack stratagems for 2 CP and you can't double the run move anymore off Swarmlord's ability and Overrun stratagem

1. Paroxysm was niche, and out of bounds. It needed to be in line. You didn't want your Genestealers in combat with something that was going to swing back or first. You threw them at something you wanted dead immediately. Unless of course you wanted to tie something down, in which case, wrong unit to do it with. That's a hormagaunts job.

On that note.

2. If you had to double movement off of Swarmie or Overrun to reach something, I don't know what you were doing wrong. Kraken Stealers move very quickly, even more so doubling them by either the strategem unique to kraken, or slingshotting them with Swarmie T1. Compounded by the fact that most times, enemy armies are packed pretty close together. A pile in and consolidate will get you into most other units nearby.


Destroyed Tyranids indeed. /s