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The 100% Unofficial Battle Valor news thread!

Battle Valor makes 15mm scale models for fantasy settings, and despite their small size they hold very good detailing!
US website: http://www.battlevalorgames.com/index.aspx
Battle Valor model line store: http://www.battlevalorgames.com/battlevalorfantasy15mm.aspx

UK Distributor Dragon Frog Games https://www.dragonfroggames.co.uk
Note - DFG doesn't list all the products as yet, however contact the guy on facebook if you're interested in any not currently listed and he should be able to get them in and add them to the site - note this should only a be a short term issue. Rulebooks should be listed on DFG soon.

06-10-2019
A massive release today including the Devlian sword and shield cavalry in all 3 options (horses, snow tigers and armoured snow tigers). In addition Bestians see a big swath of releases with command, sword and shield, spear and shield, bows, doublehanded axes, the full 12 model character set (as a group and individual models), centurion cavalry in light armour with spears. In addition the 6 shield variations are on individual sale and the starter army deal is also up for sale.
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September 2019 news and releases
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06-09-2019
All Legian Packs from the BV website are now 20% off for the duration of the month (in addition to any other discounts you might have access to from the site). Furthermore all orders from the site get a free Legian Equlibriator for this month.


August 2019 news and releases
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30-08-2019
No release today but a sight of the Stygian Shadowcaster shocktroops - 40mm tall each.



21-08-2019
Barbarian Core Army (155 models) released on the BV site. This gives you a core army and some discount on the price. In addition there are the Stygian Halberdiers being released!

13-08-19
Released for sale today are Legian Cavalry with swords on Armored Lions; Cavalry with Spears on Armoured Lions; Cavalry with Bows on Armoured Lions and the Sygian Soul Hounds and Packmaster set. In addition the Evian swordsman shields and mounted swordsmen shields are also up for sale in packs now.



08-08-19
Wovian Characters released for individual sale - that's 12 unique characters from mages to assassins and warriors all up for grabs.

03-08-19
Decian Skeleton General, and the Legian Cavalry on Unarmored Bulls with Bows and Lsgian Cavalry on Umarmoured Bulls with Swords & Shields all on sale today. Also on the FB page details that the character packs for Legian and Bestian armies are now sculpted. [around 12 unique sculpts in each]


July 2019 news and releases:
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27-07-19
Elvian Griffin Riders and Stygian Dreamstalkers are now up for sale alongside all 4 variations of the Wovian shields

13-07-19
Elvian General and Elvian army are now up for sale on the BV site!

12-07-19
Delvian crossbow cavalry in all 3 forms - that's on horses, on unarmoured snowcats and on armoured snowcats!


05-07-2019
Decian Werewolf General, Barbarian Sabre Hawks and the massive Bestian Dragonabra (dragon-taur)which has several head and arm options to allow for variety within the kit!


June 2019 news and releases
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29-06-2019
Up for sale today is the Legian general pack (2 models) and also the Barbarian Starter Army which contains all you need to get started with a Barbarian force including:
16 Swordsmen
16 Spearmen
16 Bowmen
8 Cavalry with Sword and Shield on Sabretooth cats
4 Mauler Linebreakers
Includes 9 free command units.

28-06-2019
Independence Day Sale 25% off everything from NOW until July 4th

Elvian Characters (12 varied models) are now up for individual sale on the BV website! Remembering that if you want them all for an army they are also sold in a single pack.
Also some KS updates:
Barbarian Sabre Hawks in 3 poses (2 male, 1 female)


And a selection of Bestian cavalry and other things (Delvian Spider animals are visible) Plus details that BV is up and running at the new site and is currently producing a lot of bestian models (infantry and cavalry) for KS backers from KS 2 and 3.



26-06-2019
Barbarian Great Ape Rock Thrower, Barbarian Maulers (giant bears with weapons), and the Barbarian War Wolverines with Pack Master all on sale today!


22-06-2019
Released today Legian Quarriers, Legian Cavalry with Bows on Horses, Legian Cavalry with Spears & Shields on Horses, and Legian Cavalry with Swords & Shields on Horses. In addition the Frigian characters (12 models) are now all available for individual sale.

15-06-2019
Released today the Barbarian Tramplers, Crag Giant and Cavalry with Swords & Shields on Horses, and Cavalry with Bows on Horses. Also news on the Kickstarter 3 that they'll work through the new armies first working in three blocks, infantry, cavalry, large models. The idea being to spread out the production of each army into 3 stages so that the content drip feeds out for each army rather than coming in one big block per army. This is similar to how the KS 2 armies are rolling out and reflects that the way they release does end up with models going commercial before the KS ends. That said I should note the way their KS ships is that pledge mangers go back once, but content does get posted in in ad-hock waves based on what the person has ordered or in one big go (depending on user preference). This is abnormal for most KS, but is possible for BV basically because the number taking part is far fewer (eg ks 3 only has 108 backers so it can be more flexible than those funding with 100s to 1000s of customers)

12*09-2019
Orcian characters are now up for individual sale, that's 2 Mounted Captains, 3 Foot Captains, 3 Wizards, Thief, Assassin, Seer & Apothecary!
http://www.battlevalorgames.com/individualcharacterfigures.aspx
Note remember these are the individual models, the set of 12 is also for sale under the Orcian army tab

09-06-2019
New Barbarian models added to the store:
Barbarian Bowmen
Barbarian Cavalry with Bows on Mountain Lions
Barbarian Cavalry with Spears & Shields on Horses
Barbarian Cavalry with Swords & Shields on Sabre Tooths.


05-06-2019
The move to the new site is now completed and BV is back at full operation once again. Reopening sale from now and Midnight on June16th 20% off everything.This is on top of any discount you might normally receive.
Released today are:

Elvian Characters
Elvian Lake Wyrm
Elvian Cavalry with Bows on Unarmored Horses
Elvian Cavalry with Bows Heavily Armored Horses


May 2019 news and releases
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31-05-2019
Today they've updated the site with 21 new models for sale from their Samurai line of models (produced as part of a completed Kickstarter and now distributed through BV).
http://www.battlevalorgames.com/15mmbanditsonironinsamurai.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2NwEF81D6-hOJAuGEM3enTDeQ8nscOAhnZfBgDIMsA1_dHpca4LM4sDrk
Samurai KS for reference: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/667107108/samurai-fantasy-skirmish-and-wargames/updates

Samurai, Oni warriors, Oni hounds,undead, cavalry, spirit animals and even a serpentine eastern dragon (check page 2)

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Has anyone tried their rules? How are they?

What other games/rules are good at this scale, barring down-sized KoW? I love some of these models, but can't think of what i'd do with them.

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NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Has anyone tried their rules? How are they?

What other games/rules are good at this scale, barring down-sized KoW? I love some of these models, but can't think of what i'd do with them.


My group and I are trying the rules soon.
Very old-school rank and file feel, including early D&D themed spells, 2 shooting phases, and a nice variety of orders. The type of formation you opt to end
with also determines bonuses or effects.
Army building requires 2 troops, a cavalry, and a general. From there it is how you want to spend your points.
army building is flexible and if you use a pure force of one faction you get a nifty bonus.

The rule book is loaded with a plethora of forces, cool abilities for troop types, etc.
much of the basing is on square 40mm x 40mm for troops, or 40mm x 20mm for archers. Heroes and "Line breakers" (Ogres, etc.) are on 25mm rounds. I think monsters and a few others
are on larger.

We get our bases from the website or find a similar look like the company Renedra.

It seems like great fun, but I'll have to reply more after we see it in action.

I absolutely love rank & flank styles games, but not in 28mm. There is simply not enough room to maneuver and the epic scope is lost at higher scales.
It is beautiful view seeing massive armies in 15mm. Terrain is cheaper, and small games on 4' x 4' still feel big.

as for other games, remember the company sells Skirmish packs, so you can opt to do a solid system like Frostgrave in 15mm and play on smaller tables.

Hope this provides a bit of assistance.


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You mention terrain being cheaper? What do you use? At this scale my only frame of reference is Flames of War, and I feel like that terrain is crazy expensive for how small it is.

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Eh. Battlefront is essentially based on Games Workshop's model so their stuff is overpriced compared to everyone else. Also their terrain is pre-painted which jacks the price up.

   
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NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
You mention terrain being cheaper? What do you use? At this scale my only frame of reference is Flames of War, and I feel like that terrain is crazy expensive for how small it is.


i think Infinite Array nailed it, Battlefront I won't buy anymore their customer service is very poor.

a quick search online yields some good stuff, but as stated you'll be painting it.

Battle Valor makes really nice terrain in that scale too as you'll see on their site. Very fair prices for things like haystacks, ruined towers, walls, etc.
slopped hills and the like can be obtained from train / hobby websites.

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I've been asking about terrain and in the world of 15mm the Battle Valor models are at the upper end of the size scale. So I've been advised to seek out more 20mm terrain features rather than pure 15mm (esp since terrain is often a bit undersized compared to models any way).

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=508055

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I'll definitely be giving this serious consideration. I'd buy the Battle Valor rules, but pdfs/digital versions are so much easier for me, and these guys don't seem to sell a digital version.

Any other good mass-battles systems I might want to try with these? Is Warmaster in this scale?

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I think Warmaster was 6mm but it might well work - most of the games of this scale, from what I can see, share quite a similar backbone structure with formation moving units and there's a lot of swapping over of models to complete armies either for themes or to fit rule systems.

Their rulebook is some 200 pages long and includes all the stats for all armies for the game within it so its a single book rather than, say, like GW where its individual army books.

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NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I'll definitely be giving this serious consideration. I'd buy the Battle Valor rules, but pdfs/digital versions are so much easier for me, and these guys don't seem to sell a digital version.

Any other good mass-battles systems I might want to try with these? Is Warmaster in this scale?


Oh that would be cool, yes. Warmaster is close -- just consider the base size and a few other mathmatical factors. The BVF rules actually have a bit of a warmaster feel, although there's more to it. I think the scale would work with some planning just fine. If you had any struggles, there are both 6mm and 15mm facebook and forum groups that would definitely be able to offer assistance in the transition.

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Incidentally. i'm not in any way doubting the value of their big book. As a disabled game, digital books on a tablet are just literally easier for me to use. :-)

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NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Incidentally. i'm not in any way doubting the value of their big book. As a disabled game, digital books on a tablet are just literally easier for me to use. :-)


Fully understandable, I'm taking more of a shine to them myself. Sadly I do not anticipate seeing his book in a digital version anytime soon, so I'm glad you are exploring other fun options for this range.

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 Shrapnelsmile wrote:
NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Incidentally. i'm not in any way doubting the value of their big book. As a disabled game, digital books on a tablet are just literally easier for me to use. :-)


Fully understandable, I'm taking more of a shine to them myself. Sadly I do not anticipate seeing his book in a digital version anytime soon, so I'm glad you are exploring other fun options for this range.


Oh i'm not opting out of trying his official rules. Digital would've just been a preference. I love deep, epic (pardon the pun) scale mass-battles of every variety!

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infinite_array wrote:Eh. Battlefront is essentially based on Games Workshop's model so their stuff is overpriced compared to everyone else. Also their terrain is pre-painted which jacks the price up.


Shrapnelsmile wrote:Battlefront I won't buy anymore their customer service is very poor.

a quick search online yields some good stuff, but as stated you'll be painting it.


Gale Force Nine Battlefield in a Box are all prepainted terrain and incredibly cheap and great value for the quality. There's a reason their terrain consistently sells out.

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 judgedoug wrote:
infinite_array wrote:Eh. Battlefront is essentially based on Games Workshop's model so their stuff is overpriced compared to everyone else. Also their terrain is pre-painted which jacks the price up.


Shrapnelsmile wrote:Battlefront I won't buy anymore their customer service is very poor.

a quick search online yields some good stuff, but as stated you'll be painting it.


Gale Force Nine Battlefield in a Box are all prepainted terrain and incredibly cheap and great value for the quality. There's a reason their terrain consistently sells out.


I've encountered you a long while online Judge, and I respect your opinions a lot. So this is a clarification, not a criticism:

Note the wording of my post -- it was a customer service issue. Their prices are very fair for the quality, and I'm especially impressed with the Star Wars terrain GF9 / BF recently released.
But buyer beware, if something is defective that you purchase for Battle Valor or any 15mm game, their customer service was repeatably dismissive.

To no longer derail the thread, people are free to take their chances with Battlefield in a Box. I own a lot of it, and only had issue with one purchase. But I won't buy it again.

Back on to BVF -- who is acquiring the Siege Tower? It was my favorite item and I'm curious if people plan to incorporate it into their group.


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 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

Back on to BVF -- who is acquiring the Siege Tower? It was my favorite item and I'm curious if people plan to incorporate it into their group.



I probably won't at this stage, if only because I will likely use most of my KS to build the core of a full army, that said I've got a year likely to wait until the Amazons are seen in metal and ready to order so I'm being patient on that front.

The other issue is that the siege tower seems backward to me, the mammoths are pulling it so I'm left wondering how they get it up to the castle wall - they should have had a pair pushing from behind so that it could slam into the wall.

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 Overread wrote:
 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

Back on to BVF -- who is acquiring the Siege Tower? It was my favorite item and I'm curious if people plan to incorporate it into their group.



I probably won't at this stage, if only because I will likely use most of my KS to build the core of a full army, that said I've got a year likely to wait until the Amazons are seen in metal and ready to order so I'm being patient on that front.

The other issue is that the siege tower seems backward to me, the mammoths are pulling it so I'm left wondering how they get it up to the castle wall - they should have had a pair pushing from behind so that it could slam into the wall.


That's so true I didn't even think about that. As if it is en route to battle.

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 Shrapnelsmile wrote:
 Overread wrote:
 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

Back on to BVF -- who is acquiring the Siege Tower? It was my favorite item and I'm curious if people plan to incorporate it into their group.



I probably won't at this stage, if only because I will likely use most of my KS to build the core of a full army, that said I've got a year likely to wait until the Amazons are seen in metal and ready to order so I'm being patient on that front.

The other issue is that the siege tower seems backward to me, the mammoths are pulling it so I'm left wondering how they get it up to the castle wall - they should have had a pair pushing from behind so that it could slam into the wall.


That's so true I didn't even think about that. As if it is en route to battle.


Aye - attacking a marching army on the move (though in theory most armies didn't move siege towers, they carried materials for them and/or harvested them locally and built them on site because those things are huge, heavy and not going to move well over rough terrain and poor roadways. Of course if you've got 4 mammoths then pull away!!

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Updated with a release of Elvian models and BV being fully moved into and now operational at their new site.

For those interested in the Elvians this leaves only the following models still outstanding from their release from the KS2

War Machine Bolide Generator (1 Machine and 4 Crew) $8
*Fliers Griffon Riders (3 figures, 3 variants) $10
Casualty Markers (12 figures, 4 variants) $8
*General (1 figure) $3

any with a * next to them have been previewed in the KS 2 updates.


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Sale details updated and added! Sale runs on the BV website until the 16th

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New update some Barbarians added new to the store!

Barbarian Bowmen
Barbarian Cavalry with Bows on Mountain Lions
Barbarian Cavalry with Spears & Shields on Horses
Barbarian Cavalry with Swords & Shields on Sabre Tooths.

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Orcian characters are now up for individual sale, that's 2 Mounted Captains, 3 Foot Captains, 3 Wizards, Thief, Assassin, Seer & Apothecary!

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I know these are 15mm, but has anyone tried them on Warmaster style basing (20mm x 40mm)? I really like some of these sculpts and wonder how out of place they would look against a 10-12mm army.

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The BV models are often counted as being at the upper end of size for 15mm. They'll work on 2-4cm bases very easily (I don't yet have the book but I think 2x2 is the normal base for them anyway). but against 10mm or 12mm they might look overly large. You might get away with something like orks or such (ergo non-humans) but their overall scale and style of sculpt might not mesh well.

Though I've honestly never owned any warmaster to make a direct comparison.



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NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I know these are 15mm, but has anyone tried them on Warmaster style basing (20mm x 40mm)? I really like some of these sculpts and wonder how out of place they would look against a 10-12mm army.


I used to play Warmaster back in the day. These Battle Valor are quite a bit larger. You could certainly pick & choose a few choice figures for monsters or giants, etc, but overall I'm afraid BVF is heroic 15mm and my memory of warmaster is they were, "Very much" 10mm.

You could, however, use Battle Valor Fantasy minis exclusively with Warmaster rules, if all of your group appreciates the range.

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Update with new Legian cavalry and shocktroops as well as Frigian character individual model sales!

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The new Frigian characters are amazing. I need those in my life.

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 Shrapnelsmile wrote:
The new Frigian characters are amazing. I need those in my life.


Remember there's also an army pack of them with 12 varied ones in a set rather than getting them all on their own.

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I'll toss my recommendation in on those character packs. You get a lot of bang for your buck.

You've got the makings of a pretty decent Frostgrave warband all in one go as well as just about every standard fantasy character role covered.

Plus mounted models! Toss is a skirmish pack of infantry and you're basically set!

...I'm just having to wait for them to get around to the reptilian faction characters!

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

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Quite a few updates today (in first post). A new sale with 25% off; photos of barbarian air units and some details on the bestians from the kickstarters.

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The new Barbarian units are incredible. I must, must get that Stone Thrower for our massive games incorporating behemoths.



Barbarian Sabre Hawks, 2 male 1 female.

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