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Made in nz
Pewling Menial




New Zealand

A mate is getting into Space Wolves. He is new to war gaming and loves the Fluff. Actually got me into reading the SW books.
So I did some research and tried to come up with a fun casual list that has the ability to (situation dependent) absolutely maul people. This list will be used as a guide for him to build towards.
He has said that he enjoys CC so I hope this list will satisfy that and not get tabled turn 2 every game.

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [107 PL, 2,000pts, 9CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ +

Bjorn the Fell-handed [12 PL, 234pts, 1CP]: Heavy flamer, Twin lascannon

Harald Deathwolf [10 PL, 188pts]: Warlord, Wulfen Stone, Saga of the wolfkin

Njal Stormcaller in Runic Terminator Armour [8 PL, 153pts]: 4. Fury of the Wolf Spirits, 5. Storm Caller, 6. Jaws of the World Wolf

+ Troops +

Grey Hunters [8 PL, 161pts]: 9x Chainsword . Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Power fist . 7x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol . Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun . Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun

Grey Hunters [8 PL, 161pts]: 9x Chainsword . Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Power fist . 7x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol . Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun . Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun

Grey Hunters [8 PL, 124pts]: 7x Chainsword . Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Power fist . 6x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol . Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun

+ Elites +

Murderfang [9 PL, 170pts]

Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 145pts] . Fenrisian Great Axe and Blizzard Shield: Blizzard shield, Fenrisian great axe

Wulfen [11 PL, 225pts]
. 2x Great frost axe
. 2x Thunder hammer & Stormshield: 2x Storm Shield, 2x Thunder Hammer . 4x Wulfen . Wulfen Pack Leader: Frost claws

+ Fast Attack +

Thunderwolf Cavalry [16 PL, 258pts] . Thunderwolf Cavalry: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Thunderwolf Cavalry: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Thunderwolf Cavalry: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Thunderwolf Cavalry Pack Leader: Frost axe, Storm shield

+ Heavy Support +

Long Fangs [8 PL, 181pts]
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang Pack Leader: Chainsword, Plasma gun

++ Total: [107 PL, 2,000pts, 9CP] ++

It's pretty standard, but should suffice, what do you think.



Automatically Appended Next Post:
Note: I made this list with Battlescribe, and relied on it to tell me if there were incorrect load-out rules etc, so if anything is wrong, It's because I don't actually have the codex.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/06/07 03:08:18


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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot





Since he is a new player... I wil go ahead and say. Marine troop heavy lists struggle as of late.

My favorite cheap troop = 5 primaris with bolt rifle (back-line objective holders)

Grey Hunter load-out = 5 man, plasma gun, wolf guard with combui plasma - transported in razorback with twin lascannon. (these guys are goodto press forward and take objectives, but can be rather fragile.

Blood Claws x15, powerfist x3 with a wolf priest in a stormfang gunship (massive threat - needs to be protected by a Rune Priest...)

The star units for 8th are Wulfen, Wolf Guard bikers with storm bolters and storm shields (index only at this point), Rune priests with jump packs, named dreadnaughts (Bjorn more than Murderfang) and LongFangs.

Thunderwolves are so rarely better than Wulfen, I don't run them as of late.
   
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I would agree, marines aren’t a particularly strong army but models and fluff are good and you can still have a good chance against quite a few lists. Uphill battle mind.

Most people seems to be taking primaris for their troops selection, infiltrators and intercessors. I use small squads of grey hunters or blood claws, I just use them to hold objectives and fill out my battalion. Wulfen are amazing but will attract every bullet in the opponents army. I don’t rate thunderwolf cav either, they look great but attract a lot of firepower and are quite weak against a lot of small arms fire. Only 3 wounds each and 2 attacks. I love dreadnoughts but they are not hyper competitive. Bjorn destroys anything he gets into combat with but again he only has a 3+ save. Same for murderfang and the axe and shield dreads. Forgeworld dreads are awesome but expensive in £ and points.i usually use two long fang squads, they are amazing when you add the stratagems. You can’t give special characters relics unfortunately
   
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker




If you're using a Wulfen unit, the Stone becomes redundant. Take the Armour of Russ instead, and put it on a generic Thunderwolf WGBL for those sweet, sweet wound rerolls.
   
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Plaguelord Titan Princeps of Nurgle




In My Lab

You can’t give relics to names characters.

Clocks for the clockmaker! Cogs for the cog throne! 
   
Made in nz
Pewling Menial




New Zealand

So taking into consideration what you all have been saying, we have been watching some SW Batreps on the Tube of you. I have incorporated some different ideas that we saw, with some concession on the fluff (Bikers over Calvary).

Hopefully with the changes he might be slightly more competitive, with the following.

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [113 PL, 1,999pts, 8CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ +

Bjorn the Fell-handed [12 PL, 234pts]: Heavy flamer, Twin lascannon

Njal Stormcaller in Runic Terminator Armour [8 PL, 153pts]: 4. Fury of the Wolf Spirits, 5. Storm Caller, 6. Jaws of the World Wolf

Wolf Lord [6 PL, 117pts]: Jump Packs, Master-crafted boltgun, Saga of the Wolfkin, The Wulfen Stone, Thunder hammer, Warlord

+ Troops +

Grey Hunters [8 PL, 164pts]: 9x Chainsword . Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Power fist . 7x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol . Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun . Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt pistol, Meltagun

Grey Hunters [8 PL, 164pts]: 9x Chainsword . Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Power fist . 7x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol . Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun . Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt pistol, Meltagun

Grey Hunters [8 PL, 159pts]: 9x Chainsword . Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Power fist . 7x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol . Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun . Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt pistol, Meltagun

+ Elites +

Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour [26 PL, 242pts] . Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Wolf Guard Pack Leader in Terminator Armour: Wolf Claw (Pair)

Wolf Guard on Bikes [14 PL, 272pts] . Wolf Guard on Bike: Storm bolter, Thunder hammer . . Bike: Twin boltgun . Wolf Guard on Bike: Storm bolter, Thunder hammer . . Bike: Twin boltgun . Wolf Guard on Bike: Storm bolter, Thunder hammer . . Bike: Twin boltgun . Wolf Guard on Bike: Storm bolter, Thunder hammer . . Bike: Twin boltgun . Wolf Guard on Bike Pack Leader: Storm bolter, Storm shield, Thunder hammer . . Bike: Twin boltgun

Wulfen [11 PL, 225pts]
. 2x Great frost axe
. 2x Thunder hammer & Stormshield: 2x Storm Shield, 2x Thunder Hammer . 4x Wulfen . Wulfen Pack Leader: Frost claws

+ Heavy Support +

Long Fangs [12 PL, 264pts]
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang Pack Leader: Chainsword, Plasma pistol . Wolf Guard Terminator Pack Leader: Assault cannon, Storm shield

++ Total: [113 PL, 1,994pts, 8CP] ++

Created with BattleScribe

Any better? I Hope he can get his CC fix and not get put out by the losses he will inevitably take. This is not Warhammer this is Thunderhammer!


Tactics: Njal and Termies deep strike. T2

WL keeps up with the bikes down 1 flank.

2 x squads of marines run down other flank, with Bjorn (not bad firepower with the re-rolls.)

And one squad spread thin across the center with the Wulfen behind, run up the middle.

This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2019/06/12 00:01:38


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Alluring Mounted Daemonette






Wulfens might need some kind of transport to get to the enemy. But only a stormwolf or a land raider could do the job, which require a lot of points.

 
   
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Pewling Menial




New Zealand

 Khornate25 wrote:
Wulfens might need some kind of transport to get to the enemy. But only a stormwolf or a land raider could do the job, which require a lot of points.


Yeah I'm starting to think they (the wulfen) would be the distraction in this play-style, as if/when that biker-squad get in with the WL and all those Thunderhammers they will hit like a truck. so it does not really matter which squad gets there first they will both start deleting units. also remember that the opponent will have to be spread their lines thin to minimize that terminator deepstrike that also will hit like a truck, with the -1 to hit from Njal and the 3+ invul from the storm sheilds, the terminators become quite the treat.
From what I saw in the batreps, If you run a hard hitting termie squad the opponent has two choices let them come, or try to stop the deepstrike, by spreading thin, which dramatically reduces the impact of their auras and buffs.

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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot





I tend to outflank the Wulfen... don’t NEED a transport.
I use stormwolf to deliver Blood-claws instead.
Thunder hammers on bikers is expensive. Run them as Dallas with storm bolters and storm shields. If anything else, combi-plasmas...
   
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Pewling Menial




New Zealand

Erik the Red wrote:
I tend to outflank the Wulfen... don’t NEED a transport.
I use stormwolf to deliver Blood-claws instead.
Thunder hammers on bikers is expensive. Run them as Dallas with storm bolters and storm shields. If anything else, combi-plasmas...

The stormbolters made me think.
So I changed the bikes and added a couple intercessor squads.

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [124 PL, 2,000pts, 8CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ +

Bjorn the Fell-handed [12 PL, 234pts]: Heavy flamer, Twin lascannon

Njal Stormcaller in Runic Terminator Armour [8 PL, 153pts]: 4. Fury of the Wolf Spirits, 5. Storm Caller, 6. Jaws of the World Wolf

Wolf Lord [6 PL, 117pts]: Jump Packs, Master-crafted boltgun, Saga of the Wolfkin, The Wulfen Stone, Thunder hammer, Warlord

+ Troops +

Blood Claws [9 PL, 119pts]
. 6x Blood Claw
. Blood Claw Pack Leader: Chainsword
. Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Frost axe, Storm shield

Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 145pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle . 7x Intercessor . Intercessor Pack Leader: Melee weapon replaces rifle, Power fist

Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 145pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle . 7x Intercessor . Intercessor Pack Leader: Melee weapon replaces rifle, Power fist

+ Elites +

Murderfang [9 PL, 170pts]

Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour [26 PL, 246pts] . Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Wolf Guard Pack Leader in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

Wolf Guard on Bikes [14 PL, 216pts] . Wolf Guard on Bike: Storm bolter, Storm shield . . Bike: Twin boltgun . Wolf Guard on Bike: Storm bolter, Storm shield . . Bike: Twin boltgun . Wolf Guard on Bike: Storm bolter, Storm shield . . Bike: Twin boltgun . Wolf Guard on Bike: Storm bolter, Storm shield . . Bike: Twin boltgun . Wolf Guard on Bike Pack Leader: Storm bolter, Storm shield, Thunder hammer . . Bike: Twin boltgun

Wulfen [11 PL, 225pts]
. 2x Great frost axe
. 2x Thunder hammer & Stormshield: 2x Storm Shield, 2x Thunder Hammer . 4x Wulfen . Wulfen Pack Leader: Frost claws

+ Heavy Support +

Long Fangs [9 PL, 230pts]
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang Pack Leader: Frost axe, Plasma gun

++ Total: [124 PL, 2,000pts, 8CP] ++

Created with BattleScribe

Hopefully this should be fluffy enough for him and competitive enough for him.


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