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I have a model standing behind a tall wall, but his sword is partially visible as well as part of the feathers on his helmet. I assumed this wasnt sufficient for line of sight, and did not shoot my weapons. Was I right?

 Sazzlefrats wrote:
I have a model standing behind a tall wall, but his sword is partially visible as well as part of the feathers on his helmet. I assumed this wasnt sufficient for line of sight, and did not shoot my weapons. Was I right?

The Stepping into a New Edition of Warhammer 40,000 FAQ (which doesn't exist anymore, so take this with a grain of salt) stated:

Stepping into a New Edition of Warhammer 40,000 FAQ wrote:Q. How do I determine if a model is visible to another model?
A. The models are visible to each other if you can draw a straight, uninterrupted line between any part of one model to any part of the other.

In 8th edition, this is perfectly acceptable for Line of Sight and you can both fire and be fired upon at full effectiveness.

Fair enough that makes sense, because i guess if the model was real it would be leaning in some fasion around corner any way and not completely showing. Thanks for that question OP.

 Stormatious wrote:
Fair enough that makes sense, because i guess if the model was real it would be leaning in some fasion around corner any way and not completely showing. Thanks for that question OP.

That's basically my justification. The models represent a body in motion. They aren't always in the exact position the model is in, it's an abstraction. So yeah, sometimes a tank pokes it's track around a corner and can shoot all its guns. My head canon is that the tank pulled forward a bit, fired, and retreated - and within that time it was possible for the enemy to return fire. You just have to use your imagination a bit!

All that said, while BCB is totally correct and I agree with his interpretation, this is one of the areas that people can get quite salty about. So if you want to draw line of sight from the top of your banner or something like that, be prepared to potentially have to debate the point.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 Sazzlefrats wrote:
I have a model standing behind a tall wall, but his sword is partially visible as well as part of the feathers on his helmet. I assumed this wasnt sufficient for line of sight, and did not shoot my weapons. Was I right?

The Stepping into a New Edition of Warhammer 40,000 FAQ (which doesn't exist anymore, so take this with a grain of salt) stated:

Stepping into a New Edition of Warhammer 40,000 FAQ wrote:Q. How do I determine if a model is visible to another model?
A. The models are visible to each other if you can draw a straight, uninterrupted line between any part of one model to any part of the other.

In 8th edition, this is perfectly acceptable for Line of Sight and you can both fire and be fired upon at full effectiveness.

If the document is gone, this is no more valid, or is it ?

Probably a good idea to talk with your opponent before the match.

Our house rules are that you need to see part of the body. (Or where the body would be if a shield is in the way, kind of thing) We don’t count swords, tails, extra tall hair... but that’s just our house rules.

 p5freak wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 Sazzlefrats wrote:
I have a model standing behind a tall wall, but his sword is partially visible as well as part of the feathers on his helmet. I assumed this wasnt sufficient for line of sight, and did not shoot my weapons. Was I right?

The Stepping into a New Edition of Warhammer 40,000 FAQ (which doesn't exist anymore, so take this with a grain of salt) stated:

Stepping into a New Edition of Warhammer 40,000 FAQ wrote:Q. How do I determine if a model is visible to another model?
A. The models are visible to each other if you can draw a straight, uninterrupted line between any part of one model to any part of the other.

In 8th edition, this is perfectly acceptable for Line of Sight and you can both fire and be fired upon at full effectiveness.

If the document is gone, this is no more valid, or is it ?

It’s still what the rules say. So it’s correct, and useful. .