Why are space marines so OP?

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lefyr wrote:
Slipspace wrote:
Space Marines are generally considered one of the weaker armies. Exceptions to that would be Deathwatch or Guilliman Ultramarines. They are usually seen as expensive, with poor vehicles and a lot of bad options, while they don't really have too many brilliant options. Can you give us a sample list your opponents are using, along with some of your lists? That might help people figure out where the problem lies.

Necrons and Ad Mech are also pretty weak armies so it may be your own lists are lacking in certain areas.

First off, thanks for the reply. I should mention we are both relatively new player (I have played for a little over a year, he for 2 years).

He plays imperial fists and he spams lascannons in every shape and form (predators, centurions, dreadnoughts, devestators, etc.). He also plays captains and other HQ's that let him reroll filed hit and wound rolls.

I play necron warriors, 6 destroyer (with lord as HQ), a doomsday ark, a triarch stalker and other elites and vehicles.

When I play admech it's usually Cawl, a Dunecrawler, Robots, Rangers, Infiltrators and destroyers.

Really appreciate you having a look!

Seems he is pretty hard countering your vehicle heavy lists.

Have you tried to just swamp him in bodies?