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Made in ca
Imperial Recruit in Training





I'm an Imperial Guard player looking to try out a much more elite and assault focused army, preferably with a lower model count than the 40-70 I had in my IG lists. Blood angels seem to fit that criteria perfectly. I'm trying to make a VERY assault/CC focused list that won't get shot off the table right off the bat.

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) [34 PL, 7CP, 589pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Armoury of Baal [-1CP]: 1 additional Relic of Baal

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ +

Captain [6 PL, 124pts]: 2. Artisan of War, Jump Pack, Storm shield, The Angel's Wing (replaces jump pack), Thunder hammer, Warlord

Primaris Chaplain [6 PL, 77pts]: The Veritas Vitae

+ Troops +

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor
. Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Auto bolt rifle, Auxiliary grenade launcher, 4x Intercessor
. Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword

Scout Squad [4 PL, 81pts]
. Scout: Camo cloak, Sniper rifle
. Scout: Camo cloak, Sniper rifle
. Scout: Camo cloak, Sniper rifle
. Scout: Camo cloak, Sniper rifle
. Scout Sergeant: Camo cloak, Hand flamer, Sniper rifle

+ Elites +

Vanguard Veteran Squad [8 PL, 132pts]: Jump Pack
. Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: Inferno pistol, Power sword
. Space Marine Veteran: Plasma pistol, Power sword
. Veteran Sergeant: Melta bombs, Storm shield, Thunder hammer

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) [27 PL, 1CP, 411pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [1CP]

+ HQ +

Lemartes [7 PL, 100pts]

+ Elites +

Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 111pts]
. 2x Aggressor
. . 2x Auto boltstorm gauntlets and fragstorm grenade launcher: 2x Auto boltstorm gauntlets, 2x Fragstorm grenade launcher
. Aggressor Sergeant
. . Auto boltstorm gauntlets and fragstorm grenade launcher: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher

Death Company [9 PL, 100pts]: Jump Pack
. Death Company Marine
. . Bolt pistol and chainsword
. Death Company Marine
. . Bolt pistol and chainsword
. Death Company Marine
. . Bolt pistol and chainsword
. Death Company Marine
. . Bolt pistol and chainsword
. Death Company Marine
. . Bolt pistol and chainsword

Reiver Squad [5 PL, 100pts]: Combat knife, Grav-chute, 4x Reiver
. Reiver Sergeant: Combat knife, Heavy bolt pistol

++ Total: [61 PL, 8CP, 1,000pts] ++

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The idea with the intercessors, scouts, aggressors, and priest was to create a mobile fire base that's not afraid of advancing and/or charging, and then deep strike the jump troops and reivers turn two. I'll use the stratagem pre-game to turn the Captain into a death company Captain, then deep strike him, Lemartes, and the DC in together and hit the enemy with a surprise charge, rerolling failed charges and hits in the fight phase. The Vanguard vets should have the staying power to last until they get a charge off if they fail their first roll, and are equipped to blow up whatever heavy armor the enemy has (usually only a single tank, see below). The reivers can come in from any other angle to grab objectives and otherwise act as a pop-up obstacle. Only having five also means I can make another squad from the same kit with carbines and switch them out depending on how they end up proving most useful.

I'm open to moving around and changing a bunch of stuff in this list, but want to keep the model count low and focus on moving fast and hitting hard. My local meta is very infantry focused, since we normally play around 1000pt games for casual play, with the occasional 1750pt. tournament every couple months. The low points value mean that most lists didn't bother including large, expensive tanks. I was one of the most armored lists, with two LR tanks, a Chimera, and a pair of armored sentinels in addition to my infantry. My main opponents are an Ultramarines/blood angels player, a guy who plays Thousand Sons, a few other marine/custodes/grey knights players of various flavors who come in only rarely, one other guard player who mostly uses Catachans and scions, a necron player, and a whole bunch of tyranid players.
   
Made in ca
Imperial Recruit in Training



Van City

Looks solid but I'm not a huge fan of reivers. Even with the BA bonus they are still so mediocre without any special weapons. Could they be swapped out for something?
   
Made in ca
Imperial Recruit in Training





DKofKrieger wrote:
Looks solid but I'm not a huge fan of reivers. Even with the BA bonus they are still so mediocre without any special weapons. Could they be swapped out for something?

They cost the same as my Death company, so I could switch them out for another unit of them or perhaps another character to boost my ground units, a lieutenant or something maybe. I'm a fan of the reivers' aesthetic, and thought they might be useful as just another angle of attack and grabbing objectives, but a unit of DC with bolters might do the same thing better...

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Made in ca
Imperial Recruit in Training





At this point I'm debating between another unit of DC with chainswords and bolters, or a lieutenant and a bunch of upgrades for my existing DC unit such as PS, TH, or PF. I could equip the lieutenant with a MC stalker bolt rifle and camp him out with the sniper scouts, or give him the Auto Bolt rifle or PS and send him forwards with the main bulk of my ground troops. I have no experience with BA yet, and power weapons and assault tactics are also in a pretty different context compared to the AM. Guys who are more experienced than me, what say you?
   
Made in gb
Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation






Somewhere in the bloody warp

More DC. Always more DC. I find five guys just lack the survivability needed - and losing one or two to overwatch can be critical. You should aim for a squad of 10, two armed with thunder hammers - but if you don't come up against vehicles all that often then keep em cheap with chainswords - weight of attacks win the day against most infantry.

Do you know what your sin is, Malcolm Reynolds?
Ah hell, I'm a fan of all seven.
But right now, I'm gonna have to go with wrath,


 
   
Made in ca
Imperial Recruit in Training





Alright, this is what I've sort of been looking at doing, with various small adjustments. For example, instead of giving the VVs plasma pistols and one DC a power sword and handflamer, I could just get a second hammer. However, I feel like putting the pistols on my dedicated tank hunting squad (who're also near a source of rerolling ones in the form of my captain) rather than sticking a hammer on a model in a chaff clearing squad is a better choice.

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) [27 PL, 7CP, 454pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Armoury of Baal [-1CP]: 1 additional Relic of Baal

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ +

Captain [6 PL, 124pts]: 5. Gift of Foresight, Jump Pack, Storm shield, The Angel's Wing (replaces jump pack), Thunder hammer, Warlord

Primaris Chaplain [6 PL, 77pts]: The Veritas Vitae

+ Troops +

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor
. Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Auto bolt rifle, Auxiliary grenade launcher, 4x Intercessor
. Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword

Tactical Squad [5 PL, 78pts]
. 3x Space Marine
. Space Marine (Special weapon): Plasma gun
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) [39 PL, 1CP, 546pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [1CP]

+ HQ +

Lemartes [7 PL, 100pts]

+ Elites +

Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 111pts]
. 2x Aggressor
. . 2x Auto boltstorm gauntlets and fragstorm grenade launcher: 2x Auto boltstorm gauntlets, 2x Fragstorm grenade launcher
. Aggressor Sergeant
. . Auto boltstorm gauntlets and fragstorm grenade launcher: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher

Death Company [18 PL, 181pts]: Jump Pack
. Death Company Marine: Thunder hammer
. Death Company Marine: Hand flamer, Power sword
. Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword

Vanguard Veteran Squad [8 PL, 154pts]: Jump Pack
. Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: Plasma pistol, Thunder hammer
. Space Marine Veteran: Plasma pistol, Thunder hammer
. Veteran Sergeant: Melta bombs, Storm shield, Thunder hammer

++ Total: [66 PL, 8CP, 1,000pts] ++

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