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2019/06/25 10:03:11
Subject: Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Hi,
I'm a bit confused which datasheet to use for Ministorum Priests and Crusaders after the release of the Adepta Sororitas Beta. As far as I understand so far, the "new" datasheet crusaders and the Acts of faith System from the Adepta Sororitas should be used, is that correct?
And regarding Ministorum Priests: is it the same here? Can Ministorum Priests in an Astra Militarum list use Eviscerators and the combi weapons from the Adepta Sororitas Codex with the points cost listed there? Or do they use the Datasheet from their own codex?
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2019/06/25 10:27:37
Subject: Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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Well, the Sisters codex is beta for a start. So it's all optional anyway.
Beyond that, I'll have to do some more research on the specifics of the datasheet.
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2019/06/25 11:03:45
Subject: Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Norn Queen
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Pyroalchi wrote:Hi, I'm a bit confused which datasheet to use for Ministorum Priests and Crusaders after the release of the Adepta Sororitas Beta. As far as I understand so far, the "new" datasheet crusaders and the Acts of faith System from the Adepta Sororitas should be used, is that correct? And regarding Ministorum Priests: is it the same here? Can Ministorum Priests in an Astra Militarum list use Eviscerators and the combi weapons from the Adepta Sororitas Codex with the points cost listed there? Or do they use the Datasheet from their own codex?
If you choose to use the Beta codex, you use the Beta codex (i.e. Astra Copywritum Codex for the Priest, Beta Codex for the Crusaders). If you choose to not use the Beta codex, you use the Astra Copywritum codex for the Crusaders and Priest. The Beta codex does have a Designers Note asking you to use the Beta rules for Crusaders, however. Chapter Approved, Page 69 wrote:Designer’s Note – Crusaders: The Crusaders datasheet appears both in this beta codex and in Codex: Astra Militarum. The biggest difference between the two arises from the revised Acts of Faith ability. As noted, this is one of the rules we would most like to get your feedback on; as such, if you are using Crusaders as part of an Astra Militarum army, please use the datasheet and all rules for them as presented in this beta codex until the full Codex: Adepta Sororitas is published, whereupon we will also make any necessary updates to Codex: Astra Militarum.
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2019/06/25 12:06:36
Subject: Re:Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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@ BaconCatBug:
Just to check if I understand correctly: so if I decide to use the Beta Codex I can include for example a Ministorum Priest with an eviscerator and an inferno gun with the points cost of said Beta Codex, this unit would not hinder the rest of my AM army of getting a regimental doctrine and can board AM Transports normaly, right?
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2019/06/25 12:08:11
Subject: Re:Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Norn Queen
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Pyroalchi wrote:@ BaconCatBug: Just to check if I understand correctly: so if I decide to use the Beta Codex I can include for example a Ministorum Priest with an eviscerator and an inferno gun with the points cost of said Beta Codex, this unit would not hinder the rest of my AM army of getting a regimental doctrine and can board AM Transports normaly, right?
No. Ministorum Priests do not have a datasheet in the Beta SOB codex. That was a mistake on my part, I have corrected my earlier post.
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2019/06/25 16:36:44
Subject: Re:Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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I just read about the Battle Sisters here: https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Adeptus_Ministorum(8E)#Elite
were alternative weapon options are listed, that are not in my AM codex. Googling a bit further I found this datasheet
http://wahapedia.ru/wh40k8ed/factions/adepta-sororitas/Ministorum-Priest
Therefore I asumed it was include in the Beta.
So there is currently no option to get a priest with a flamer and/or eviscerator in my list? That's a pitty
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2019/06/25 16:55:02
Subject: Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/06/25 16:55:51
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2019/06/25 19:18:21
Subject: Re:Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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OK, interesting... I bought the Astra Militarum Codex Hardcover and the Ministorum Priest data sheet in there doesn't list any weapons options and also no Uriah Jacobus.
The webpage you referenced says "I’ve grabbed the profiles from the Adeptus Minstorum section [...]". Which book is this section in?
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2019/06/25 19:20:27
Subject: Re:Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Norn Queen
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Pyroalchi wrote:OK, interesting... I bought the Astra Militarum Codex Hardcover and the Ministorum Priest data sheet in there doesn't list any weapons options and also no Uriah Jacobus.
The webpage you referenced says "I’ve grabbed the profiles from the Adeptus Minstorum section [...]". Which book is this section in?
Index: Imperium 2 or Chapter Approved 2018 for the Beta SOB codex.
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2019/06/26 04:40:29
Subject: Re:Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Since I'm a bit reluctant to buy the index just for this one info: could anyone tell me the points cost of an AM eviscerator?
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2019/06/26 06:16:48
Subject: Re:Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Pyroalchi wrote:Since I'm a bit reluctant to buy the index just for this one info: could anyone tell me the points cost of an AM eviscerator?
No, because Dakka dakka is not a replacement for the books.
Get BattleScribe, it will have the points there.
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2019/06/26 08:49:54
Subject: Re:Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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OK, valid point. In this case I will probably get the index sooner or later. Thanks for all the input
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2019/06/26 17:15:31
Subject: Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 BaconCatBug wrote:Pyroalchi wrote:Hi,
I'm a bit confused which datasheet to use for Ministorum Priests and Crusaders after the release of the Adepta Sororitas Beta. As far as I understand so far, the "new" datasheet crusaders and the Acts of faith System from the Adepta Sororitas should be used, is that correct?
And regarding Ministorum Priests: is it the same here? Can Ministorum Priests in an Astra Militarum list use Eviscerators and the combi weapons from the Adepta Sororitas Codex with the points cost listed there? Or do they use the Datasheet from their own codex?
If you choose to use the Beta codex, you use the Beta codex (i.e. Astra Copywritum Codex for the Priest, Beta Codex for the Crusaders).
If you choose to not use the Beta codex, you use the Astra Copywritum codex for the Crusaders and Priest.
The Beta codex does have a Designers Note asking you to use the Beta rules for Crusaders, however. Chapter Approved, Page 69 wrote:Designer’s Note – Crusaders: The Crusaders datasheet appears both in this beta codex and in Codex: Astra Militarum. The biggest difference between the two arises from the revised Acts of Faith ability. As noted, this is one of the rules we would most like to get your feedback on; as such, if you are using Crusaders as part of an Astra Militarum army, please use the datasheet and all rules for them as presented in this beta codex until the full Codex: Adepta Sororitas is published, whereupon we will also make any necessary updates to Codex: Astra Militarum.
This has come up before "please use" is a request not a rule am players may use either for now provided the beta codex is admissable although it is clearly intended that it will be replaced so your on borrowed time
Sisters players if you are useing the beta codex you have to use the latest codex
If you are not useing the beta codex you must use the index version or follow the designers flow chart
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2019/07/18 07:40:22
Subject: Re:Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Since it is a more or less related question and I don't want to spam new threads:
As far as I gathered, ministorum priests are allowed to take the WL trait "righteous rage" in the beta codex. Is this also possible, if the priest is WL of an Astra Militarum army?
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2019/07/18 07:45:36
Subject: Re:Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Norn Queen
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Pyroalchi wrote:Since it is a more or less related question and I don't want to spam new threads:
As far as I gathered, ministorum priests are allowed to take the WL trait "rigthous rage" in the beta codex. Is this also possible, if the priest is WL of an Astra Militarum army?
Yes, but only if you're using the Beta codex rules. This means the Ministorum Priest (Codex: Astra Copywritum, page 99) can take the Warlord Trait as they have the correct keyword.
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2019/07/18 15:48:33
Subject: Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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sorry @BCB,
Just for Clarity , what is Astra Copywritum ?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/07/18 15:48:43
As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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2019/07/18 15:55:06
Subject: Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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 Type40 wrote:sorry @BCB,
Just for Clarity , what is Astra Copywritum ?
There is no such faction. It’s a ‘witty’ take on Astra Militarum.
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2019/07/18 15:58:29
Subject: Which Datasheet for AM Ministorum Priests and Crusaders?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ah, thanks for the clarity 
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As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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