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My Imperial Knights got their asses handed to them the other day by an Imperial Guard army with mostly Russes and a troop screen. Had some thought about putting my old Raven Gourd Venerable Dreadnoughts with twin las to use again. Alternatively a fusion heavy Farsight list. Something that can outshoot him but still be more durable. Or am i thinking about this the wrong way? In general what is good against russ spam?

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Melee.

The LR cannot shoot if it's in melee and cannot shoot if it has to fall back.

If you're playing IK you shouldn't have many complications getting your opponent in melee. Clear out the chaff infantry screen with shooting and then charge the LR's behind the screen.

Imperial Knights and Armiger's can cover ground quickly. Deploy everything as far froward as possible and rush your opponent.
   
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Knights can shoot, then charge and then next turn, withdraw shoot and charge again. Use this to the max.

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Take out any tank commanders as soon as humanly possible. The rest of the Russ' arn't nearly as effective with their piddly BS4. Blast off enough wounds to drop them down a profile and you should feel fairly safe as a knight player.
   
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Take a decked up Knight Castellan, a Knight Crusader with Taranis relic Thermal Cannon, and a Gallant. Fill up the rest points with Armiger Warglavie. Then you should be able to smoke any Leman Russ spam. Likely you will get to destroy more than 3 tanks per turn.
   
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What was your Knights list like? What was his Guard list like? Are you playing pure Knights? When you say, "russ spam", were they actually Leman Russ Tanks, or Tank Commanders? Did he have Pask?

   
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Yeah I would need to see both list. I play both armies, and usually a Castellan has no problem taking out 4 Lemans (pask & 3 TC) plus hellhounds/basilisk.

As guard, the only time I one shot a castellan (3++) was with a deathball around a warlord with old grudges and cadian overlapping fields of fire. Vigilus detachment tank relic.
It takes a lot to do this.

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I was Hawkshroud errants and warglaives he was Cadian loyal 32 and Russes plus one tank commander. He was focus firing on my knights one at a time so i had no use of my tradition. Have ordered the new castelan and helverins box, planing on making them Vulker. Change the Hawkshroud knights to a more melee focused tradition?

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A knight gallent would be my suggestion. I still would run it hawkshroud, give it the warlord trait for +2 to advance and charge rolls, give it a 2+ save, run it full speed forward and use the strat to advance and charge then plow into his russes. Use 2 crusaders with it and helverins to unload on any chaff that may get in the way. Once you get russes stuck in cc they are not an issue. Also dropping them to hitting on 5+ / 6+ is all you need to aim for, they are worthless at that point.


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A knight gallent would be my suggestion. I still would run it hawkshroud, give it the warlord trait for +2 to advance and charge rolls, give it a 2+ save, run it full speed forward and use the strat to advance and charge then plow into his russes. Use 2 crusaders with it and armigers to unload on any chaff that may get in the way. Once you get russes stuck in cc they are not an issue. Also dropping them to hitting on 5+ / 6+ is all you need to aim for, they are worthless at that point. Also a gallent is by far the best freaking knight for its points. 356 i think? Something like that, and should get that t1 charge. Also if that and 3 warglaives are coming strait at him he is going to focus on that gallent, letting your warglaives get within 15" to light up those tanks.

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