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Hey folks,
I am hoping you can help me create some semblance of a list from the units I have and give me some direction going forward. So I have a 30k Thousands Sons army I have been working on for some time and while looking at the new Chaos Space Marine book, I think I can put something together that would be fun to play and maybe? semi competitive. I could use a bunch of the Black Legion rules.


So- Ill also be spending a CP on Council of Traitors

Vanguard Detachment- (Bringers of Despair Specialist Detachment)
Chaos Lord with jump pack, combiplasma, Ghorisvexs Teeth- Warlord Trait- First Amongst Traitors
5 terminators, 3 combiplasma, 2 combibolters, 1 powerfist, 1 chainfist, 3 chainaxes MoT
5 terminators, 3 combiplasma, 2 combibolters, 1 powerfist, 1 chainfist, 3 chainaxes MoT
5 terminators 5 combimeltas, 3 chainaxes, 1 powerfist, 1 chainfist MoT
(Yeah, some of the terminators are going to be expensive but they should pack a punch given twith the lord within 6 inches they reroll all hits)

Battalion
Sorcerer in terminator armor- MoT, Warp Time, Weaver of Fates - unholy fortitude (from council of traitors)
Dark Apostle- Trusted War- Leader (from council of traitors)
2 Dark Disciples

3 x 5 csm with chainreaper

5 chosen, 3 combiplasma, 1 plasmagun, 1 with pfist

Now the tricky stuff that I dont have points for etc that is still all painted (dont know how to work this in, not familiar enough with the rules)

2x Castellax-Achea Battle-automata with Æther-flame Cannon (I could count these as normal ones)
Thousand Sons Legion Osiron Pattern Contemptor Dreadnought with assault cannon and the blade, the assault cannon is magnetized the ccw is not sadly.
Magnus
2 space marine rapier quad mortars

Again all this is painted and looks good on the table top. First I dont know how much it costs point wise because of the forgeworld and next, I want a cohesive army that works together on the battlefield. I would like to keep the terminators the focus of the army. I am not opposed to adding units to support this- I thought maybe I would add a termite for the chosen so they could pop out and shoot. I also have a Xiphon that is not painted.

Any input on total points, how bad my units are and units I should add etc would all be appreciated. Again, Im not looking to win tournaments obviously just have a chance to keep it close against anything players at the hobby store might put on the battlefied (and most of these guys use big stuff).




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Or would it be better to simply go Tzeentch? I do not have that codex, only the Chaos and Vigilus Ablaze.

Chainfists are not good, so are energy fists, you are talking about 7-10 pts shaving per instance. Also tzeentch makr is useless for terminators. Go slaanesh for doubleshooting, especially if you heavily invest in combiplas.

I don't see the point in the combiplas on the lord with the ghovrex teeth, hand him another chainsword and give him flames of spite instead. (that is commonly known as bleender lord)

The dark apostle is a point grave sadly.