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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator




Hi everyone
after several debate, proposal, math about points, PL, etc me and my friend decided to go simply and narrative for our "Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight" match:
we decided to go 1 vs 1 aka only my Imperial Knight vs only his Wraithknight
no psyker, no slamquinius support, no fire dragon, no helverin armigers... noone else

So i have only my Hawkshroud Knight to face his dreadful Wraithknight
I magnetised all weapons so at the moment i can choose my weapon combo... and then the question... what should i bring to a Knight Fight?

My main idea is gatling cannon and battle cannon, and of course missiles (the anti tank ones i guess) and keep the distance for as long as possible, luckily also decreasing his stats before he get too close and cut in half my Questoris
however, another tactic could be to go thermal cannon and thunder fist, and probably an artifact to increase survivability (or damage) in hand-to-hand...

what do you suggest? tactic? advices? must have?

ty for help

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WA

Not going to be a fair fight. Despite IK knights being better, its going to come down to who goes first.

What are your limitations to Relics and Warlord Traits?

I would start with a Crusader with Thermal Cannon and AGC. Hard combo to beat. If there are less limitations, the Castellan is made to kill other knights

 
   
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot





Sesto San Giovanni, Italy

I would use a Terryn Paladin with Thunder of Voltoris and a Paragon Gauntlet (or Sanctuary and a chainsword) with dorsal missiles.

The extra movement should allows you to be the one who charge. But it heavily depends from distance, CP and other stuff.

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Longtime Dakkanaut





UK

Do you know what build of Wraithknight he is bringing? If he goes dual Wraithcannon, then he will want to hang back too. If he goes for Sword a Shield, then expect him to come hurtling at you as fast as possible.

IKs are generally superior to WKs but as UMGuy pointed out, a lot will ride on first turn and what build of WK you opponent takes.

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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator




Hi
Thank you everyone for your replies
I have an Hawkshroud coloured IK; all weapons are magnetised so i can choose wich weapon to use (aka i can bring either paladin or crusader)
We are playing "for fun" so i can also declare a proxy and use a different household tradition or even a freeblade... but i'd like to use the Hawkshroud just to keep it consistent, if there is no clear tactic disadvantage

I don't know wich weapons complement he will use, because the wraithkinght too is magnetised; with this in mind, Paladin have the advantage to adapt the tactic (ie going hand to hand if he use cannon, or keep the distance if he bring glaive)
Besides, Crusader combo seems very good in both situation too (even if i fear AGC will lack enough strenght/AP to damage him quickly enough...)

We did'nt set rule for warlord or relic, so i guess we will play as written on book: IK will get warlord trait (the bonus to hit roll for hawkshroud) and relic (i was thinking about sanctuary, because he will probably try to take advantage of IK lack of invuln save; the bigger AGC or chainsword could also be a good idea)
I dunno if wk too have relics or other advantage....

I haven't decided yet but thank you all for your suggestion

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Each Uisge
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Kings of War https://imgur.com/a/x56ods7 
   
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps






I mean... the obviously superior answer here is a Krast Crusader w/ Headsman's Mark and First Knight warlord trait, equipped with a battle cannon, avenger cannon, and stormspear missile pod.

Headsman's Mark gives you +2 damage to all weapons vs Titanics, so you should be able to put out a lot of damage in shooting, and hopefully close to melee, since your 12 stomp attacks also get +2 damage each. First Knight lets you re-roll all 1's to hit, making it's shooting even deadlier.
   
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator




Ok we fought and... it did well. For me.

he was using 2x Wraithcannon, that are S16 O_O
i was using a Crusader with Gatling and Thermal Cannon and "judgment" relic for missiles

i won initiative so i started first
in my first turn i got close and opened fire; thanks to a partial cover he got +1 to his save so saved against missile and gatling; however, at 17" from thermal cannon he got 2 unsaved hit for a total 12 damage (pretty nice!)

in his first turn he healed with a strategy card (don't remember the name... tears of isha maybe?) got closer, shoot with wraithcannon but thanks to 5++ save i did'nt lose enough to reduce my stats and then charged in close combat
We both used feet to attack and the fight was roughly even; my knight was reduced to less than 10 hp, but thanks to Hawkshroud's ability the stats where not reduced.
His 'knight was reduced to around 6 hp, still on his feet but in front of a thermal cannon...

in my second turn i fall back, and shoot again. Thermal cannon at short distance, and lack of invulnerable save, was enough to finish him

In the end winning the initiative was decisive for me; probably if i started second i had serious bad time but maybe i could have a little more possibility to win thanks to the invul save. Probably we will never know...

ps i did also some photos but not uploaded yet; i'll upload that asap!!

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/07/24 17:24:39


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Each Uisge
3000 (approx)

some of my work here: https://imgur.com/user/MaleficoKelpie/posts

WH40k - Blood Angels https://imgur.com/a/p5F7u and Imperial Knight https://imgur.com/a/STDmxPF
Necromunda https://imgur.com/a/AQ3xX
Kings of War https://imgur.com/a/x56ods7 
   
 
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