Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

do you guys run a regular lord of change of the slightly more expensive fate weaver? i feel the points increase for the extra powers is a very good trade off.

The powers are not that great and Kairos will die very quick.

LoC with Impossible Robe and maybe WL trait Incorperal Form gives you 4++ invul with +1 to the roll and -1D to a minimum of 1D.

you used to be able to use Warp surge for +1 to your invul so he had 3++ with a +1 to the roll, but after some FAQ you can't do that any more.


I generally feel that all Greater Daemons are kinda bad place now and if you take one you need another or something else to draw attention.

i normally play 2 Lord Discordant (CSM) and found out that a Bloodthirster can draw fire from them effectivly.

i would like some small change to Greater Daemons so i could play mine more, maybe will try my Kairos, 2 LoC, Skarbrand and Bloodthirster in one singel list, but doubt they be any good.

The lord of change with the impossible robe and wl incaporial form is definatly much more survivable than a fateweaver.

Fateweaver is a flat up upgrade over a normal loc, but once you add those other options onto the loc its better. Effectively 3++ trumps 4++ all day long.

Remember, the incaporial form is a modifier. It still works to get you a 3++ (3's become 4's so pass).

Yeah I feel they need to change the points for all greater daemons to make them more viable. They just don't survive long enough.