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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine






I've been thinking about running a best of chaos Terminators list. Mostly because it'll be fun and I want to play something different. Also I own everything but Abbadon and the csm Terminators in the list below.

I don't expect to win any GTs with this list but what are people's thoughts on how to make it work within the following constraints:

1) Terminators should make up the vast majority of the list.
2) I would prefer to have Scarabs, Blightlords and CSM Terminators in the list.
3) I want to be able to drop as much as possible turn 2 for a big beta strike. With tough stuff left on the board t1.

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [48 PL, 8CP, 884pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Field Commander [-1CP]

Legion: Black Legion

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Bringers of Despair

+ HQ +

Abaddon the Despoiler [12 PL, 2CP, 240pts]: Warlord

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour [7 PL, 114pts]: Angelsbane, Chosen of the Warmaster, Combi-bolter, Death Hex, Force axe, Mark of Tzeentch, Prescience

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: No Chaos Mark
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: No Chaos Mark
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: No Chaos Mark
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [20 PL, 380pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma

++ Patrol Detachment (Chaos - Death Guard) [42 PL, 711pts] ++

+ HQ +

Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]: 1. Miasma of Pestilence, 4. Blades of Putrefaction

+ Troops +

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 120pts]: 20x Poxwalker

+ Elites +

Blightlord Terminators [27 PL, 416pts]
. Blightlord Champion: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of Corruption
. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of Corruption

++ Auxiliary Support Detachment -1CP (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [22 PL, 404pts] ++

+ Elites +

Scarab Occult Terminators [22 PL, 404pts]: 2x Hellfyre Missile Rack
. Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Force stave, Glamour of Tzeentch, Inferno Combi-bolter
. 9x Terminator: 9x Inferno Combi-bolter, 9x Powersword

++ Total: [112 PL, 8CP, 1,999pts] ++


Currently I'm planning to drop in scarabs, plasma termies and termie sorcerer 898 points total. Blightlords hold middle geound and bully the mid board. Typhus and poxwalkers march up and spread out. CSM and sorcerer drop in t2 and do their thing. Scarabs are fairly independent. Cultists try to deliver abandon into mele so he can chop up big threats.


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Oh also I'd considered having a TSons character or two eith dark matter crystal so I can start with the scarabs on the board instead and drop in the blightlords and Typhus. But I couldn't make the points fit. If you guys have any suggestions that'd be great.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/08/02 18:22:30


 
   
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Dakka Veteran




Win or lose I'd love to see this thing play.

My thoughts are your better off with sons as the battalion. Tzaangors over cultists adds quite a bit to the list. Plus greater psych range/options. Definitely take dmc.

This is one instance where I'd at least entertain some combi plasmas on those blightlords. 18" double tap with abby and prescience in a list pretty short on heavy weapons.

On that note a couple single oblits wouldn't be too far out of bounds would it? Just a thought.

Anyway cool concept.
   
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine






Thanks man, I thought it would be a blast to play. I think you're right with the tsons and the dmc. I hadn't thought about oblits, I suppose they're just really chaosified Terminators. I have 9 of them including 3 of the shadowspear ones so I could definitely try them out in a devistaion battery.

With that in mind I have 2 possible lists:

List 1:
Spoiler:

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [50 PL, 7CP, 840pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Relics of the Thousand Sons (1 Relic) [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour [8 PL, 113pts]: Dark Matter Crystal, Force sword, Inferno Combi-bolter

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour [8 PL, 113pts]: Force sword, Inferno Combi-bolter

+ Troops +

Tzaangors [4 PL, 70pts]
. Twistbray: Tzaangor blades
. 9x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor Blades

Tzaangors [4 PL, 70pts]
. Twistbray: Tzaangor blades
. 9x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor Blades

Tzaangors [4 PL, 70pts]
. Twistbray: Tzaangor blades
. 9x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor Blades

+ Elites +

Scarab Occult Terminators [22 PL, 404pts]: 2x Hellfyre Missile Rack
. Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Force stave, Inferno Combi-bolter
. 9x Terminator: 9x Inferno Combi-bolter, 9x Powersword

++ Patrol Detachment (Chaos - Death Guard) [42 PL, 663pts] ++

+ HQ +

Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]

+ Troops +

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 72pts]: 12x Poxwalker

+ Elites +

Blightlord Terminators [27 PL, 416pts]
. Blightlord Champion: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of Corruption
. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of Corruption

++ Patrol Detachment (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [27 PL, -1CP, 496pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Alpha Legion

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Devastation Battery

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord in Terminator Armour [6 PL, 101pts]: Combi-bolter, No Chaos Mark, Power sword

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: No Chaos Mark
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

+ Heavy Support +

Obliterators [18 PL, 345pts]: Mark of Slaanesh, 3x Obliterator

++ Total: [119 PL, 6CP, 1,999pts] ++


List 2:
Spoiler:

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [50 PL, 4CP, 699pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [5CP]

Relics of the Thousand Sons (1 Relic) [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour [8 PL, 113pts]: Dark Matter Crystal, Force sword, Inferno Combi-bolter

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour [8 PL, 113pts]: Force sword, Inferno Combi-bolter

+ Troops +

Tzaangors [4 PL, 70pts]
. Twistbray: Tzaangor blades
. 9x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor Blades

Tzaangors [4 PL, 70pts]
. Twistbray: Tzaangor blades
. 9x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor Blades

Tzaangors [4 PL, 70pts]
. Twistbray: Tzaangor blades
. 9x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor Blades

+ Elites +

Scarab Occult Terminators [22 PL, 263pts]
. Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Force stave, Inferno Combi-bolter
. 6x Terminator: 6x Inferno Combi-bolter, 6x Powersword

++ Patrol Detachment (Chaos - Death Guard) [42 PL, 669pts] ++

+ HQ +

Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]

+ Troops +

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 78pts]: 13x Poxwalker

+ Elites +

Blightlord Terminators [27 PL, 416pts]
. Blightlord Champion: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of Corruption
. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of Corruption

++ Patrol Detachment (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [35 PL, 3CP, 632pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Legion: Black Legion

+ HQ +

Abaddon the Despoiler [12 PL, 240pts]

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: No Chaos Mark
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [20 PL, 342pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma

++ Total: [127 PL, 7CP, 2,000pts] ++


What do you think?

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/08/03 14:05:45


 
   
Made in us
Dakka Veteran




Damn seeing the oblits in list form I don't think they fit as well as I'd thought. Stupid pts increase.

I definitely like list 2 the best so far so working from that..
I did question Abaddons inclusion, for just a moment. But of course he'd be there commanding the onslaught of 30 tda. Plus he does add 2 cp a nasty counterpunch and fearless everything.

I think you could tweak this thing for days and each version would be cool so I'll just give a bit more input, still keeping to your theme..

Typhus could really use more zombies to buff and channel MWs through. So each terminator nets you approx 5-6 tzaangs/walkers. Whether its worth the trade off in this particular list or not Idk. I'd probably just squeeze some zombies by dropping a terminator and call it done.

Thats it man I'd be interested in a batrep.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/08/03 15:50:17


 
   
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine






Yeah I prefer no oblits and Abbadon. Purely about keeping the theme going, Abandon is king Terminator and makes a decent warlord. Plus it gives me an excuse to pick him up despite me not playing black legion.

Here's the final list then:


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [50 PL, 7CP, 736pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Relics of the Thousand Sons (1 Relic) [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour [8 PL, 113pts]: Dark Matter Crystal, Force sword, Inferno Combi-bolter, Prescience, Warptime

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour [8 PL, 113pts]: Death Hex, Force sword, Infernal Gaze, Inferno Combi-bolter

+ Troops +

Tzaangors [4 PL, 70pts]
. Twistbray: Tzaangor blades
. 9x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor Blades

Tzaangors [4 PL, 70pts]
. Twistbray: Tzaangor blades
. 9x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor Blades

Tzaangors [4 PL, 70pts]
. Twistbray: Tzaangor blades
. 9x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor Blades

+ Elites +

Scarab Occult Terminators [22 PL, 300pts]
. Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Force stave, Inferno Combi-bolter
. 7x Terminator: 7x Inferno Combi-bolter, 7x Powersword

++ Patrol Detachment (Chaos - Death Guard) [42 PL, 626pts] ++

+ HQ +

Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]: 4. Blades of Putrefaction, 5. Putrescent Vitality

+ Troops +

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 120pts]: 20x Poxwalker

+ Elites +

Blightlord Terminators [27 PL, 331pts]
. Blightlord Champion: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of Corruption

++ Patrol Detachment (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [38 PL, 1CP, 637pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Black Legion

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Bringers of Despair

+ HQ +

Abaddon the Despoiler [12 PL, 2CP, 240pts]: Warlord

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 55pts]: No Chaos Mark
. 10x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [20 PL, 342pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma

++ Total: [130 PL, 8CP, 1,999pts] ++

Will be a couple of weeks till I have Abandon and the csm Terminators ready to go but I'll post something up when I run them for the first first time.
   
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Stalwart Tribune





Only one slight downside - you need to have at least 50% of your army on the board turn 1...
Athough it might be nice for a one off mission...
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/warhammer_40000_update_April_2019_en.pdf (see page 8 - Tactical Reserves)

Praise the Omnissiah

About 4k of .

Imperial Knights (Valiant, Warden & Armigers)

Some Misc. Imperium units etc. Assassins...

About 2k of  
   
Made in gb
Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine






I know man, but dark matter crystal lets me start the scarabs on the table. The plasma termies, Abbadon and the blightlords can come in via deepstrike and everything else is on the table.
   
Made in gb
Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine






I've ended up running this list a few times now. Dropped Abandon and the csm Terminators and added the nurglings to secure some good positions for the scarabs, oblits and blightlords to drop into. It's a lot of fun to play.

The oblits are still genuinely worth their points as are the scarabs. But the allstars, especially since they got hateful assault are the blightlords. Anything they touch gets destroyed even invuls aren't a problem when they have blades of putrifaction and VotLW.

There's a few problems with the list, mainly lack of cp and I'm sure it would have a difficult time with flyer spam. But it is a blast to play.

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Daemons) [49 PL, 8CP, 828pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Chaos Allegiance: Nurgle

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: 4. Blades of Putrefaction, Malefic talon, Wings

Poxbringer [4 PL, 70pts]

+ Troops +

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

+ Elites +

Blightlord Terminators [27 PL, 416pts]
. Blightlord Champion: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of Corruption
. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of Corruption

++ Patrol Detachment (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [28 PL, -1CP, 503pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Alpha Legion

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Devastation Battery

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord with Jump Pack [6 PL, 93pts]: Armour Bane, Blade of the Hydra, Bolt pistol, Chainsword, No Chaos Mark, Warlord

+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 65pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. 4x Marine w/ Boltgun

+ Heavy Support +

Obliterators [18 PL, 345pts]: Mark of Slaanesh, 3x Obliterator

++ Patrol Detachment (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [37 PL, -1CP, 669pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Relics of the Thousand Sons (1 Relic) [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch [9 PL, 180pts]: Dark Matter Crystal, Gaze of Fate, Malefic talon, Prescience, Wings

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 85pts]
. 16x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

+ Elites +

Scarab Occult Terminators [22 PL, 404pts]: 2x Hellfyre Missile Rack
. Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Force stave, Glamour of Tzeentch, Inferno Combi-bolter
. 9x Terminator: 9x Inferno Combi-bolter, 9x Powersword

++ Total: [114 PL, 6CP, 2,000pts] ++
   
 
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