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Made in nz
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Hey guys, the terrain I used has a few ruined buildings that have a base floor only surrounded with some 9 inch high ruined walls. Also an imperial Statue that is pretty high as well. Is it acceptable to land units with fly on top of these or should they be impassable for all units?

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Made in gb
Norn Queen






Liger404 wrote:
Hey guys, the terrain I used has a few ruined buildings that have a base floor only surrounded with some 9 inch high ruined walls. Also an imperial Statue that is pretty high as well. Is it acceptable to land units with fly on top of these or should they be impassable for all units?
There is no such thing as Impassible Terrain (ruleswise) in 8th edition. If you class those walls as ruins, then models that can FLY may land on top of them.

However, as per page 251 of the BRB:
BRB Page 251 wrote: Some players prefer to say that certain terrain features, such as giant rock formations or imposing sealed buildings, are simply impassable to any models – creating obstacles on the battlefield for armies to manoeuvre around. You could make up some truly exotic rules for your terrain, such as creating a portal to the warp through which Daemons can materialise throughout your battle. Anything goes, so long as all players agree that it sounds like fun!

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Made in nz
Fresh-Faced New User




Is this true even if they base doesn't fit or balance? Like on the head of the statue?

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Made in gb
Norn Queen






Liger404 wrote:
Is this true even if they base doesn't fit or balance?
If they don't fit, then no, you can't put them there. If they don't balance, you use the Wobbly Model Syndrome rule as per page 177 of the BRB.
   
Made in nz
Fresh-Faced New User




It's just a thin wall, like 1cm thick. So even a space marine jump pack base will hang off, although you can balance him up there.
   
Made in gb
Norn Queen






Liger404 wrote:
It's just a thin wall, like 1cm thick. So even a space marine jump pack base will hang off, although you can balance him up there.
Then you can use WMS to place models on it.
   
Made in nz
Fresh-Faced New User




I feel like perhaps this is a rule abuse and this FAQ would apply.
"WOBBLY MODELS
We’ve had several questions asking for clarity about how exactly the wobbly model syndrome rule should be used to
place models in ‘counts as’ locations. We are a bit surprised by these questions. To be clear, our intent for wobbly model
syndrome was that it should serve only as a hint or tip to prevent models from getting damaged should they be placed
in a location where they would be in danger of falling over if the table was to be accidentally nudged during play. It
was not intended to be a rule that enables you to place a model in a position where it could not otherwise physically
be placed."
   
Made in gb
Horrific Hive Tyrant





Wobbly Model Syndrome is for protection of models that MIGHT fall. It is not to allow to place a model somewhere where it would be impossible for the model to stay.

If you take your hand off the model and it immediately falls, you can't claim WMS. If it stays but you are worried it isn't very stable, that situation is what the rule is for.
   
Made in us
Captain of the Forlorn Hope





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 Stux wrote:
Wobbly Model Syndrome is for protection of models that MIGHT fall. It is not to allow to place a model somewhere where it would be impossible for the model to stay.

If you take your hand off the model and it immediately falls, you can't claim WMS. If it stays but you are worried it isn't very stable, that situation is what the rule is for.

Yes, but a 1 cm thick wall is okay for a model to stay there if you can balance it up there.

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Made in nz
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Yeah that makes sense. You can balance smaller models on the wall, but definitely not on the statue head. So on the wall might be ok.
   
Made in gb
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 Stux wrote:
Wobbly Model Syndrome is for protection of models that MIGHT fall. It is not to allow to place a model somewhere where it would be impossible for the model to stay.

If you take your hand off the model and it immediately falls, you can't claim WMS. If it stays but you are worried it isn't very stable, that situation is what the rule is for.

One more thing, you can only claim wms if your opponent agrees

 
   
 
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