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++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [35 PL, 669pts] ++

Detachment Attribute: Cult of the Red Grief


+ HQ +

Succubus [4 PL, 60pts]: Archite Glaive, Blast Pistol -- Drug: Serpentin (+1 WS)

Succubus [4 PL, 60pts]: Archite Glaive, Blast Pistol -- Drug: Splintermind (+2 Ld)


+ Troops +

Wyches [2 PL, 59pts] -- Drug: Hypex (+2 M)
. Hekatrix: Blast Pistol, Agoniser
. 3x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

Wyches [2 PL, 58pts] -- Drug: Adrenalight (+1 A)
. Hekatrix: Blast Pistol, Power sword
. 3x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Hydra gauntlets

Wyches [4 PL, 74pts] -- Drug: Grave Lotus (+1 S)
. Hekatrix: Blast Pistol, Power sword
. 5x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Hydra gauntlets


+ Fast Attack +

Reavers [6 PL, 148pts] -- Drug: Painbringer (+1 T)
. Arena Champion
. 3x Reaver
. Reaver with special weapon: Blaster
. Reaver with special weapon: Blaster


+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon -- Carries the 7-wych unit and a Succubus

Venom [4 PL, 65pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle -- Carries a 5-wych unit

Venom [4 PL, 65pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle -- Carries a 5-wych unit


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++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [42 PL, 891pts] ++

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Obsidian Rose


+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 86pts]: Warlord, Hatred Eternal, Blast Pistol, Huskblade, The Armor of Misery

Archon [4 PL, 93pts]: Blaster, Huskblade


+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 114pts]
. 6x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon: Dark Lance
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 114pts]
. 6x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon: Dark Lance
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 114pts]
. 6x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon: Dark Lance
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 114pts]
. 6x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon: Dark Lance
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle


+ Elites +

Mandrakes [8 PL, 96pts]: 5x Mandrake, Nightfiend


+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon -- Carries a Kabalite squad

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon -- Carries a Kabalite squad


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++ Air Wing Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [25 PL, 435pts] ++

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Obsidian Rose


+ Flyer +

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 135pts]: Twin splinter rifle
. 2 Disintegrator Cannons

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 135pts]: Twin splinter rifle
. 2 Disintegrator Cannons

Voidraven [9 PL, 165pts]: Two void lances, Voidraven Missiles


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++ Total: [102 PL, 1995pts] ++

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-Guardsman- wrote:
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [35 PL, 669pts] ++Succubus [4 PL, 60pts]: Archite Glaive, Blast Pistol -- Drug: Serpentin (+1 WS)

The +1 WS is wasted on the succubus. MathHammer works to give wyches a decent bump instead. Give her heightened +2" move, as having a succubus end-run into LOS blocking terrain to gain an Overwatch free charge helps out the other girls.

I go 2 succubi with +2" move and heightened T, named Velociraptrix and "The Ex" respectively. I focus the other drugs on better offense for the girls, not move or defense. Go +1A, +1S and +1WS for the wyches. You can check another drukhari thread where I make the case that Cursed Blade higher S girls is the best of the cults, and I crunchenumbers.

-Guardsman- wrote:

. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Hydra gauntlets
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Hydra gauntlets

Shardnets give you more solid tarpitting options. Since these are all just 7/5/5 girl units it's not like you're going to use them to kill much more than SM scouts or unlucky guardsmen. Fuller units of 9+ can actually wallop things.

 Brothererekose wrote:
The +1 WS is wasted on the succubus.

Disagree! It negates the to-hit penalty of the Archite glaive.

Shardnets give you more solid tarpitting options. Since these are all just 7/5/5 girl units it's not like you're going to use them to kill much more than SM scouts or unlucky guardsmen. Fuller units of 9+ can actually wallop things.

I'll consider it. I only have two shardnet models, though, and I hate proxying, so I'll still have a unit with hydra gauntlets.

-Guardsman- wrote:

 Brothererekose wrote:
The +1 WS is wasted on the succubus.

Disagree! It negates the to-hit penalty of the Archite glaive.

Correct, but you will still get better bang for your buck in supplying the extra 'to hit' multiplied by 5 or 7 wyches, instead of one more likely dice of hitting the A-glaive for the character.

Succubus: 4 swings at S5 (let's give her 3 combat rounds to get better fractions), so rolling 12 dice:
- at WS2, 12 swings with the glaive, she gets 10 hits, wounds GEq and MEq on 3s, wounding ~6.6 dudes (two-thirds of 10). 6 or 7 dead guardsmen (no saves) and 5 marines dead.
- at WS3, 12 swings with the glaive, she gets 8 hits, wounds GEq and MEq on 3s, wounding ~5.3 dudes (two-thirds of 8) 5 dead guardsmen and 4 to 5 dead SM.

1 or so model difference between WS 2 and 3.

x5 wyches - 15 swings times the 3 combat rounds we've given the succubus,
- at WS2, means 45 dice, 36+ hits (actually 37.49, but let's stick with easy fractions). S3 wounds GEqs 18 times. MEqs 12 times. 12 dead guardsmen and 4 dead marines (*with* their saves). And all on S3. And the number of dead goes up because the hekatrix will have the agonizer, wounding more, denying saves.

Still think WS2 on her is better?

Can't really calculate at the 5 girls WS3, because they'd have one of the other combat drugs, which skews the numbers.
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Further, Red Grief which is gaining some inches in Advancing and charging isn't so good when those girls are getting a venom's awesome (further) move than a raider. Game mechanic-wise, I rarely have long charges for my girls. Cursed Blade is far superior. You won't need it for morale with such small units, but the S5 shoves the wounding ability over considerably.