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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/24 05:11:59
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Knights + CSM
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Regular Dakkanaut
Colorado
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Any Suggestions for Relics or Warlord traits? Maybe run the Vigilus Detachment. Thanks for any input.
Chaos Knights Super-Heavy Detachment +6CP
491 - Knight Despoiler x2 Rapid-fire Battle cannon, Twin Icarus Autocannons, Warlord – Helm of Warp-Sight
417 - Knight Despoiler x2 Thermal cannon, Twin Icarus Autocannons
417 - Knight Despoiler x2 Thermal cannon, Twin Icarus Autocannons
Chaos Space Marines Battalion +5CP – Red Corsairs +3CP
HQ-
160 – Lord Discordant – Mark of Slaanesh, Autocannon
160 – Lord Discordant – Mark of Slaanesh, Autocannon
160 – Lord Discordant – Mark of Slaanesh, Autocannon
Troops-
65 - Chaos Space Marines
65 - Chaos Space Marines
65 - Chaos Space Marines
Total – 2,000 points
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While the wicked stand confounded
call me, with thy saints surrounded |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/24 07:43:37
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos Knights + CSM
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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I'd consider dropping one of the LDs for a sorcerer on bike and making him warlord. Warptime for first turn charge and death hex are just too useful. Plus a hideable warlord makes it much easier to avoid giving away slay the warlord and you get to choose all your relics and traits on the knights, so you don't have helm of warpsite when you're playing tau and really just want the 4++ relic or bloodangles and want the dreadblade relic.
I don't think you need the vigulus detachment if you have warp time and I'd give one LD intoxicating elixir to be a little more potent. I'd also use ionstorm over the icarus autocannon. Indirect fire 72" range is a lifesaver.
With the extra points you could stick a reaper chaincannon or autocannons or combi bolters in a unit or two of those csm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/24 13:32:57
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Knights + CSM
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Regular Dakkanaut
Colorado
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Thank you for the suggestions. The Chaos Sorcerer was definitely the major consideration. I also considered swapping a Lord D for Ahriman in a Patrol Detachment (I've got enough CP to spare).
Should play test 'em all, but I kinda like the idea of eschewing psyckers to concentrate on more threats. Even if I lose a Lord Discordant on the way in, that's still the same as a Sorcerer getting two Lords in safely. Plus, the army plays a lot faster.
Thanks for the advice!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/24 23:28:41
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Knights + CSM
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Would recommend running a knight rampager, so you can create a more immediate threat for the opponent on t1/2, this should ease pressure off of your discordant.
A twin avenger Knight could be a good idea instead of one of the twin thermal knights, its slightly cheaper (I believe) and gives you something to use against horde armies.
I would take the discordants khorne to allow them to fight twice if required rather than slaanesh, which doesn't grant them much at all except intoxicating elixir. The talisman of burning blood also gives you more reliable 1st turn charges for 2 discordants as you can advance and charge with 2 rather than the 1 the stratagem provides you with.
Definitely run the vigilus detachment and pay for the warlord trait which comes with it, very worth it, my list uses it and the extra 2" move and advance and charge is brutal and can catch people off guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/25 22:00:39
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Knights + CSM
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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they are red corsair, they can ALL move advance and charge, but yes i would go for Korne too. so if needed you can deliver 26 attacks.
I would go for 1 less big knight, play a wardog with autocannons and get a battalion with sorcerer+warpsmith, then you have a supreme command with 3 Lod red corsair, 16CP and fun list to play.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/26 00:15:42
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos Knights + CSM
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Khorne strat only works on infantry so no help to LDs. I'm a fan of the double thermals myself, 2d6 high strength, triple range melta shots for 110 points is great.
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