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2019/08/29 02:26:39
Subject: Which Codices fall into the ‘8.5’ Category?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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I read an interesting notion in a recent thread. I’ll paraphrase.
“The new codex: Space Marines is an 8.5 edition codex.”
This is probably best looked at as a measure of power level and perhaps “newness.”
Which of the current codices would you personally classify as being powerful and/or “new” enough to be “8.5 edition” codices?
Which of the current codices don’t qualify? Will these that don’t be updated?
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2019/08/29 02:40:31
Subject: Which Codices fall into the ‘8.5’ Category?
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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"8.5" refers very simply to any codex that has already received a codex in the current edition, and then a second codex in the same edition. There are 2 - Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines.
There is no other criteria, its not based on newness or power level, and its not a subject up for debate. The "X.5 edition" label comes from 3rd edition, where Chaos Space Marines received a codex early on, and then later a second codex. The second codex was popularly called the "3.5 edition codex" and is fondly remembered to this day as one of the best codexes ever released for the game.
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2019/08/29 02:40:45
Subject: Which Codices fall into the ‘8.5’ Category?
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Norn Queen
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Only the SM codex. The CSM reprint was nothing but a collation.
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2019/08/29 02:45:29
Subject: Re:Which Codices fall into the ‘8.5’ Category?
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
Hanoi, Vietnam.
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Well it's not an official versioning scheme, so be prepared to have this thread devolve into absolute vitriol about what the term "8.5" means.
From my point of view, one could categorize any codex that's had a second release in this edition as 8.5, which would leave Codex: Chaos Space Marines and Codex: Space Marines so far. Though as a software developer, I'd have gone with "8.1" myself. 
Not that you asked, but if the codices are all going for round 2, I suggest that Grey Knights really ought to be top of the list, but then, Xenos players will cry foul that Games-Workshop are giving us "yet more Imperium."
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2019/08/29 02:46:54
Subject: Which Codices fall into the ‘8.5’ Category?
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Doesnt matter, second iteration of the codex with units that werent in the previous one and a few minor points changes = 8.5.
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2019/08/29 02:48:58
Subject: Which Codices fall into the ‘8.5’ Category?
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Norn Queen
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chaos0xomega wrote: Doesnt matter, second iteration of the codex with units that werent in the previous one and a few minor points changes = 8.5.
I disagree. Codexes have had multiple printings in an edition in the past and weren't x.5 codexes. To be x.5 it needs to be a major design paradigm shift, which SM were and CSM were not,
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2019/08/29 03:21:39
Subject: Re:Which Codices fall into the ‘8.5’ Category?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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I can understand that BCB, the CSM codex is more a "reprint with new material added" whereas the space marine codex is a major revision.
One thing I think is intreasting to note is that if you look at the cover of the CSM codex is actually has a "II" on the cover whereas the space marine codex doesn't. So... I suppose one could argue that the CSM codex is "codex 8.0 II" and codex space Marines is codex "8.5"
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2019/08/29 03:46:17
Subject: Re:Which Codices fall into the ‘8.5’ Category?
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Norn Queen
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BrianDavion wrote:I can understand that BCB, the CSM codex is more a "reprint with new material added" whereas the space marine codex is a major revision.
One thing I think is intreasting to note is that if you look at the cover of the CSM codex is actually has a "II" on the cover whereas the space marine codex doesn't. So... I suppose one could argue that the CSM codex is "codex 8.0 II" and codex space Marines is codex "8.5"
Also, the latest Space Marines codex is "Codex: Space Marines", while the old one was "Codex: Adeptus Astartes Space Marines".
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2019/08/29 04:25:27
Subject: Which Codices fall into the ‘8.5’ Category?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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chaos0xomega wrote:The second codex was popularly called the "3.5 edition codex" and is fondly remembered to this day as one of the best codexes ever released for the game.
Only by Chaos players - anyone else who was playing at the time remembers it as the unbalanced abomination of cheese that it was.
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- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2019/08/29 05:43:38
Subject: Which Codices fall into the ‘8.5’ Category?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 Dysartes wrote:chaos0xomega wrote:The second codex was popularly called the "3.5 edition codex" and is fondly remembered to this day as one of the best codexes ever released for the game.
Only by Chaos players - anyone else who was playing at the time remembers it as the unbalanced abomination of cheese that it was.
Playing DA at the time as my only army, I got nice and familiar with the 3.5 dex, I was told I was super lucky because I could take a force commander for an HQ, which for anyone who doesn't know was basically a Veteran Sgt I could take for my marine HQ, yes, I was super lucky indeed. While they stomped the yard with all of my forces.
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2019/08/29 08:11:38
Subject: Re:Which Codices fall into the ‘8.5’ Category?
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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As a software developer, I wonder about the numbering.
What would you call a third marine codex released during 8th? Is seems to be happening for AOS as well.
<insert joke about GW being out for your money here>
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