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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/12 20:52:11
Subject: Ultramarines tactical doctrine?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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suddenly i have a dumb question about Ultramarines ..when tactical doctrine is active does the whole army get to move and count as not having moved or only units that benefit from the tactical doctrine?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/12 21:15:11
Subject: Ultramarines tactical doctrine?
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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All Ultramarines units with the Combat Doctrines ability get Scions of Guilliman while the Tactical Doctrine is active.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/09/12 21:17:41
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/12 21:34:47
Subject: Ultramarines tactical doctrine?
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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Brother Castor wrote:All Ultramarines units with the Combat Doctrines ability get Scions of Guilliman while the Tactical Doctrine is active.
This, provided your whole army is either ULTRAMARINES, or the same Ultramarine successor chapter. And provided all units in the army have Angels of Death.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/12 22:02:36
Subject: Ultramarines tactical doctrine?
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Norn Queen
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Stux wrote: Brother Castor wrote:All Ultramarines units with the Combat Doctrines ability get Scions of Guilliman while the Tactical Doctrine is active.
This, provided your whole army is either ULTRAMARINES, or the same Ultramarine successor chapter. And provided all units in the army have Angels of Death.
They don't need Angels of Death, they need Combat Doctrines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/12 22:31:49
Subject: Ultramarines tactical doctrine?
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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BaconCatBug wrote: Stux wrote: Brother Castor wrote:All Ultramarines units with the Combat Doctrines ability get Scions of Guilliman while the Tactical Doctrine is active.
This, provided your whole army is either ULTRAMARINES, or the same Ultramarine successor chapter. And provided all units in the army have Angels of Death.
They don't need Angels of Death, they need Combat Doctrines.
Combat Doctrines is part of Angels of Death. They are not found separately.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/12 22:42:24
Subject: Ultramarines tactical doctrine?
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Norn Queen
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Stux wrote: BaconCatBug wrote: Stux wrote: Brother Castor wrote:All Ultramarines units with the Combat Doctrines ability get Scions of Guilliman while the Tactical Doctrine is active.
This, provided your whole army is either ULTRAMARINES, or the same Ultramarine successor chapter. And provided all units in the army have Angels of Death.
They don't need Angels of Death, they need Combat Doctrines.
Combat Doctrines is part of Angels of Death. They are not found separately.
1) They are not found separately yet. They may in the future and causing confusion by making it seem like Angels of Death is needed is a bad idea.
2) The rule quite literally says Codex: Space Marines (2019), Page 109 wrote:Combat Doctrines
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If you have a Battleforged army, units only benefit from this bonus if every unit from your army has this ability (excluding SERVITOR and UNALIGNED units).
The term "this ability" is referring to the Combat Doctrines ability, not the Angels of Death ability.
3) As an additional point to 2, Servitors do not have Angels of Death, but because they have the SERVITOR keyword, do not prevent the army from benefiting from Combat Doctrines, because the Combat Doctrines rule says so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/13 05:10:37
Subject: Ultramarines tactical doctrine?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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And I believe the FAQ has said only the Fortifications (so far) are Unaligned.
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My WHFB armies were Bretonians and Tomb Kings. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/13 07:57:59
Subject: Ultramarines tactical doctrine?
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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All that is true BCB, I just felt it was out of scope for what was needed to answer the OP's question.
There's no harm in adding a bit of extra detail though, so thanks for that.
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