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So, over last night's game, we had an incident with my Custodes against his 1k sons.

His Psychic phase, he smites my naught, it pops, and causes 3 mortal wounds to my Custodian squad near by.

I use Aegis of the Emperor for the 6+++, and my opponent cries foul. I read the rule, which is obviously RAI to block PSYCHIC wounds, but still. As written:



It's clear that it affects all wounds during a phase. He can't argue the writing, but argues the intent. I agree it's worded terribly. But it is what it is.

BCB got any thoughts on this?

it is worded perfectly to me.

There is no such thing as a 'psychic' wound. Smite cause MORTAL wounds which this ability allows you to ignore on a 6+ in the psychic phase.

E: Misread Op.

It's very clear in my opinion. It affects all mortal wounds in the psychic phase. It's a pretty simple rule.

Yeah, it goes against real world logic, but thems the breaks.

He's not referring to using it against Smite wounds, but the wounds from the Dread exploding. While it may not be RAI, it definitely works according to the RAW.

Dadavester wrote:
it is worded perfectly to me.

There is no such thing as a 'psychic' wound. Smite cause MORTAL wounds which this ability allows you to ignore on a 6+ in the psychic phase.

The wound wasn't cause by SMITE, it was caused by the exploding Dreadnought.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:

Dadavester wrote:
it is worded perfectly to me.

There is no such thing as a 'psychic' wound. Smite cause MORTAL wounds which this ability allows you to ignore on a 6+ in the psychic phase.

The wound wasn't cause by SMITE, it was caused by the exploding Dreadnought.

Ahh, apologies, missed that part!

Still it is a Mortal wound in the psychic phase, there is no such thing as a psychic wound. I get where the other player is coming from, but it is pretty clear it affects mortal wounds caused by the exploding dread.

While it may seem a little odd, it can be easily fluffed away as the explosion being partly "psychic" in nature since it was caused by a "psychic" attack.

I would love to fluff this away, but I swear there was a FAQ in the past that dealt with this exact style of +++, where it said it only affects wounds caused directly by psychic abilities i.e. Smite. I think it was the Astra Militarum faq but I can't find it. WHERE IS BCB!?

Maybe if you repeat his name three times...

 ikeulhu wrote:
Maybe if you repeat his name three times...

That only works when you are standing on a kumquat wearing a banjo hat and singing "My Way" in D minor. Otherwise, we just have to start randomly misinterpreting rules.

Rule of 3 only applies to games with no heavy support!

Kurav's Aquila can only be taken when the included battalion has an odd number of Bullgryns.

Cover Saves only affect infantry with ranged weapons!

I don't see what the problem is. If it was only meant to work against psychic powers it would say it only works against psychic powers.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
WHERE IS BCB!?

I had to go outside today, I hated it.

RAW, it works against any mortal wounds in the psychic phase, no matter where they come from.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
I don't see what the problem is. If it was only meant to work against psychic powers it would say it only works against psychic powers.

The wording of the rule is clear, but he was concerned that there is a Special Snowflake FAQ somewhere that states otherwise and thought you may be aware of it.

Does no one care that I am clearly 100% correct about the way to summon the BCB by blowing the Horn of Incorrect Truths?

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Does no one care that I am clearly 100% correct about the way to summon the BCB by blowing the Horn of Incorrect Truths?

The BCB summoning rules have not been FAQ'd yet, so your RAW were clearly correct!

 Stux wrote:
It's very clear in my opinion. It affects all mortal wounds in the psychic phase. It's a pretty simple rule.

This is 100% correct

Yeah, it goes against real world logic, but thems the breaks.

the rules were not written to be "Modern day real world" logical. It is a rules system. an abstract system used to play a game by those rules.

If you want to justify using this rule in your particular instance, simply imagine the Dread's explosion being more of a psychic boom than a standard boom.

 ikeulhu wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:
I don't see what the problem is. If it was only meant to work against psychic powers it would say it only works against psychic powers.

The wording of the rule is clear, but he was concerned that there is a Special Snowflake FAQ somewhere that states otherwise and thought you may be aware of it.

then it should be in one of the custodes faqs

terry wrote:
then it should be in one of the custodes faqs

key word there is should. It would not be the first time if GW put a ruling some place other than the most obvious place.

Well, in the absence of anything proving otherwise, it works.

If someone says it doesn't ask them for the FAQ or Errata, if they cannot produce it continue as you were.

 ikeulhu wrote:

terry wrote:
then it should be in one of the custodes faqs

key word there is should. It would not be the first time if GW put a ruling some place other than the most obvious place.

I swear there was a relic that gave the same protection ability in another codex...I looked through Chaos last night, not there. Maybe I'm thinking like GK in 7th. Ah well, asked and answered. Thanks for all the help!