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Well another painting log...my 8th for those keeping count...I like to keep armies and themes together. Although this one will have terrain and those odds and ends that do not fit in my specific army logs.

So after a move and more storage room I plan on doing more terrain. When City Fight first came out many editions ago I build an entire Cityscape (8' x 4') out of 1' x 1' tiles.










For many years these have been moved from house to house and seen a fair bit of damage (due to storage, gaming accidents, disapproving better halves). So it is time to restore or replace them.




I also want to re-build the original Necromunda game board with towers and walkways and will likely do some of each (as many pieces can fit both game systems and tables). Some of my more recent builds in this log:





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CB

youwashock wrote:Great ruins. I think I see some of the ones that came with 3rd edition 40K. Love those.

Yes, I used several of those to make the ruined shrine and for the T section roadways...now some will go back to scatter terrain as I am eliminating the roads for new stand alone ones I am crafting below.

Flapjack wrote:Looking good. Why do I feel there's a good story behind the disapproving better halves?

Flapjack, well Mrs. Captain Brown thought my modelling and painting were cute before we got married...once we moved in together they were not so cute due to the space they took up.

So the first thing I am going to build is a road, as putting the roads on the tiles limited how they could be put together. Saw a great tutorial here.

Part way through two sections of regular road. This is the in between layer which sits over the base chipboard and below the road surface foam card.

Two sections of cratered road. Again at stage two where I have the base of chipboard and the first raised portions that will sit below the road surface.

Here are two straight road sections with the foam card added and the gutters.

Here are all six sections in progress. I did this for efficiency in construction so that as I finished a pair of roads with glue, I let it dry and moved to the next pair.


More to come.

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So here are the results of the first batch.



Only main flaw was that I was a little aggressive cutting back the ends of the foam card road ends. At some point in the future I will build some of the 6 inch lengths and a T section.

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 Excommunicatus wrote:
If you don't mind, how wide are your roads and what's your thinking behind making them that width?

Excommunicatus,

The pieces are 6 inches wide (ease in cutting a regular piece of chip board in half to make two sections), the asphalt portion is 4 inches wide and that accommodates pretty well all 40K vehicles other than Super Heavies...there is also an extra inch of gutter for those wider vehicles and the edging on the gutters is the same height as the asphalt so a Super Heavy will stay level even if some of the track overhangs the edges.

Hope that answers your question.

Sincerely,

CB

Excommunicatus wrote:Yeah it does, thanks.

It also reinforces my plans for my (eventual) city board and the roads on it. My plan is for two lanes, each 4" wide, 'cause a Chimera is 3.75" wide.

EDIT - Although, now I think about it, that translates to a 24' wide road. Modern day allowances in Ontario for regular roads is 66'...

Excommunicatus,

To make the roads a realistic size uses up too much real-estate on the table top. So I go with the smaller size.

youwashock wrote:That's pretty cool. You need to get some shots with a few minis milling around.

Thanks youwashock, I will do that when I build the next sections.

Now I have been trying to figure out where to post my old Necromunda that is getting a face lift for my gaming group's renewed interest in the classic version.

Here is as good a place as any. Three metal Eschers that I received in a trade that had no bases and needed a good bath in Simple Green.

In progress:



Finished

How they look with one of my originals that needed repair and some replacement weapons.


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Theophony wrote:Nice looking crew you have there. I have about 20 Escher from the same period sitting in Simple Green for the last year and a half . Oh the projects we forget about .

Thanks Theophony, perhaps this might provide some renewed interest...or an opportunity?

Thanks youwashock and gobert

CommissarKhaine wrote:Loving the old school look of these, excellent colour choices! Just one question: no leopard spots/tiger stripes?

Thanks CommissarKhaine, I used up all my tiger stripe mojo on my Necromundian Imperial Guard.

Maharg wrote:Those Escher look great CB, nice classic paint job. That is one set of minis I wish a younger Maharg had had the foresight to buy, they still look great today and better than the current models

Thanks Maharg, perhaps a PM to Theophony with an inquiry about some unused Eschers in his collection gathering dust?

In the meantime, I found this great old Necromunda terrain site with a Ventilator made out of almost entirely bits you have at home and I just had to try it.

Link All credit goes to this completely made builder - Mister Sean Patten.
Parts
Now I do not have all the parts on hand, but figured I could use something similar...the hardest thing to locate was a radio cassette and case. Sourced from one of my gaming buddies.
So I am going to start building that next with what I have, for what I am missing I am going to improvise a little.

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Thanks youwashock,

I should have taken a photo prior to building, but I was too excited to start once I paid for lunch to get some old audio cassette tapes with boxes

List of parts Listed by Mister Sean Patten
One Manufactorum building panel (I did not have this so I have used a cut-up Necromunda wall)
One intact floor panel (I did not have this so I cut a square out of 0.60 mm plastic card)
Two flying buttress from the Basilica sprue
Ladder
One pipe half (I did not have this so I used an old mechanical pencil)
One bulkhead, the narrow strip with rivets on it
One globe style light
One small eagle support
One small exhaust detail
Two PVC pipe couplers size 3/4"
Two CPVC 45 degree elbows size 1/2"
One CPVC 90 degree elbow size 1/2"
Three plastic clothes pegs at least 3" long
One juice bottle Lid and the snap ring below the lid
Two pop-up water bottle tops
And of course one audio cassette tape with box

Now I started to deviate a bit from Sean's instructions almost immediately because I knew that cutting old plastic with a razor saw would be very difficult once glued together and the plastic is so old and fragile that I would not be using a clipper on it.

To make my first saw as straight as possible I used the edge of the clear screen as a guide.

As I did not have the Manufactorum building panel and could not measure I decided to maximize the amount of detail in the half of the cassette tape that was going to be displayed...so perhaps mine would be a little higher, I checked and it was still lower than the cassette case. I also wanted the hole for the cassette reel to fit with the CPVC 90 degree elbow

Fixed the image tag.

Then using my Necromunda bulkhead as a bracket I glued two halves of the cassette together and used the horizontal side as my guide for the next sawing.

Again slow and steady wins the race as the plastic is so brittle.


Finished that cut.

Now I have the L of one side and the lower roof of the station.


Now looking at the lower roof that would support the two 45 degree CPVC "vents" I noticed my cassette tape inside had some extra bits that would keep parts from being flat, so I used two halves of a plastic clothes peg and cut out portions to fit snuggly and added a piece of plastic card with some spare to fit around the cassette reel holes.

Look at the lovely industrial detail the cassette case interior has at the bottom of the photo above.


Happy with the fit I glued my L to the cassette case and the 90 degree PVC pipe.

Again there is really neat detail from the inside of the cassette that will look great after painting.


The two 45 degree COVC "vents" with the reels from the inside of the cassette fitted.


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Thank you Yorkright

The Riddle of Steel wrote:Nice job so far on the scratch building. I looked at the link you posted and that’s a nice little tutorial. It’s great to see a use for the old cassettes. I have a box of them still, but since they are mostly personalized mixtapes, I can’t bear to destroy them out of nostalgia. But there are some cool shapes and textures in a cassette that I never would have thought of. I’m looking forward to seeing your progress.

Thanks Riddle,

If I had not seen the build I would never have thought there were so many useful parts inside a cassette.

Now that I had a basic structure I started dry fitting some parts to see how they would fit together.


The two flying buttresses and the removal of some of the detail that will be covered by the side vents.


Side vents with the caps of the pop-up bottle tops removed.


Start of the rear vent that I used plastic card instead of the tile recommended.


Now all but the rear and angled top vents glued on. The terrain now has some weight to it.


For the angled vents I ended up adding the little parts that came out when I removed the tape.


Angled vents glued on and another clothes peg cut up for end detail and some of the Imperial icons.


Two more clothes pegs, ladder, part of a plastic pencil, lamp, old Hunter Killer Missiles hatch ends and other parts added.


Other angles, now I still have to complete the rear vents and add it for more structural strength.


More to come.

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Thank you CommissarKhaine and Warboss_Waaazag

Theophony wrote:Glad I saved a bunch of cassettes from when we were purging old stuff at church. I disassembled a couple dozen and kept all the parts in a box. I have some vhs tapes that need to scuttle too.

The terrain is looking great. Keep it up.

I had to buy a lunch to get three old cassettes and cases (and one case was all cracked).

So the side vent got lots of little additions.


And the other side of the styrene square I cut, adding some Guard bits and a resin base for a more industrial look.


Added a Mark I Rhino hatch as an interior access cover.


If you look at the left of the interior I added the two small reels from the cassette tape as they look like great valve wheels.


A few more bits added above the down pipe.


With the side vent installed.


Ready for painting.


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Now with primer.









With some old metal Ratskins on it for scale.

They all will look better when painted up.

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Thank you Warboss_Waaazag, gobert, Max Moray, CommissarKhaine and youwashock.

So first couple of layers of paint and the first varnish so it has some enduring strength when it gets hit with errant dice and to keep the rust powder on. Going to add some more grime and then a matt varnish.







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PS: youwashock, watch out for rats as I have painted up those two Ratskins.

youwashock wrote:That's really looking good, Captain. I'll go get some traps.

Thank you, below are some photos to help you identify the perpetrators.

Flapjack wrote:That looks great, some convincing weathering going on there.

Thanks Flapjack.

So finished two more Ratskins with Muskets to make my gang a little more thematic. Light was a little poor when I took these shots.






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Thank you gobert and Flapjack.

Yorkright wrote: Love what you have done with the cassettes, have you ever posted up a pic of your gaming table? Would like to see all of your terrain with some of those fantastic rat skins running around on it.

Thanks, I will have to delay a little on the photo of the gaming table, as my City Fight Terrain table ended up being moved to the residences of three other players, some has been lost, some has been damaged, some of the better parts they want to keep for games at their places. Although as soon as we have a Necro game I will take some shots beforehand...and I am making more terrain.

Here is an experiment with some scatter terrain, a mound of rubble on broken tile for weight (as there is nothing as frustrating as light scatter terrain shifting when some models are placed on it.

Remember sprue rubble, well I have used it here...with some real small stones, sand and a few pieces of plastic to add detail.

Top down with some models.

Side view, you can see it is high enough for cover...which in Necromunda is line of sight...although for a regular 40K game it is large enough to place a squad on for cover.


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Thanks youwashock, LynchMOBFTE and Maharg.

I made another scatter piece.


So beside the Necromunda terrain I am building, this log is also about my old and damaged City Fight terrain. Here is the first building repatriated from my old City Fight table. It was returned first from one of my buddies storage rooms as it fell off a shelf and the tile base shattered.









Now separated into two sections and mounted on a chip board base that lets me use tabs to lock it together. This was one of the cardboard and tape jobs from the tutorial in White Dwarf. I think is needs a much lighter drybrush of white to represent dust.

What do people think?

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Thank you youwashock, Theophony and gobert.

Good suggestions so I am back to do more drybrushing. In the meantime, some more scatter finished.

A small one for some Gangers to hide behind and shoot from cover.

A larger one, trying out more bits (including a tank tread as one this size could be used for a regular 40K fight and have enough space to encompas a large squad)

One more complete with barbed wire.


More to come as I am photographing the Ventilator now.

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Bschwi1 wrote:Very nice scatter terrain.
I really need to get off my lazy behind and build some terrain, still using cardboard box buildings and books...

Thank you and good luck Bschwi1, nothing like a table with painted terrain to add to the experience.

gobert wrote:Nice use of random bits on the scatter terrain. Is that an old battery on the right of the last one?

gobert, thanks for the reply. No it is part of a Leman Russ side sponson.

CommissarKhaine wrote:Nice work! The additional drybrush definitely improved things.

Thanks CommissarKhaine.

OK the first dry brush on the ruined buildings.


I think I will do even more and then add some smoke stain effects above the windows.

The Ventilator







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Thanks youwashock,

Inspiration for that goes to Sean Patten, a master terrain builder from stuff lying around the house if there ever was one.

Started on some more scatter terrain, I have two sets of the 3rd edition starter box that need to be remounted on some chip board.

Rough first draft.


Also painted up a pair of old metal Cawdor gangers.





The Red Redemption continues to recruit more members.


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Thanks CommissarKhaine,

While I never purchased the starter box in that edition, either through trades or exchanges with my gaming group I have several, so here are two of them getting some love after years and years of sitting as primed plastic.



My main goal as I glued on the rubble was making certain the Chip Board base stays completely flat.


So no showers of glue to secure them down...epoxy for the larger pieces.

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Thank you youwashock,

Now the two pieces with sand added, again small amounts at a time to use a small amount of glue and keep the Chip Bard flat.


Then the paint.




Side by side.


Now do I leave them as is on one layer of Chip Board, or do I add another two layers like some of my larger buildings?

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Thanks youwashock and CommissarKhaine,

Did another one while waiting for parts for my next building/generator (i.e. fluids to be consumed for more bits).

In progress


Completed and painted


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Warboss_Waaazag wrote:Nice use of materials. Beautiful concise paintjob. I was a little skeptical about the materials at first but seeing the end product painted it looks fantastic.

Thank you Warboss_Waaazag, sprue rubble comes through when you have run out of materials.

youwashock wrote:Love it. Can see the models scurrying across it already.

Thanks youwashock

Viterbi wrote:Your output always amazes me Captain Brown, quality- and quantity-wise. That's some really cool terrain!

Thanks Viterbi

Pomander Cask wrote:The buildings look nice! Those chopped-off sprue frames look textured somehow, very good dry-brushing.

Thank you Pomander Cask

Finalized another 3 metal Escher gangers. This time with red hair to contrast the blue and purple.





The 7 now finished. 8 More to go.

Seeing them together, I need to use another brown on the bottom of the bases to match.

Now I want to decide what I am going to build with this water filter. I need to get the charcoal out of it as it is pretty heavy. But I think it would make a great part of a small power plant or manufactorium.


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Thank you youwashock, gobert and The Riddle of Steel,

Another three Eschers finished.




The gang is getting larger.


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youwashock wrote:You're on a roll, Cap'n. How many of the lovely ladies do you have left?

Five...well now two as the other three are shown below.

The Riddle of Steel wrote:I like the effect of the black metal with the metallic highlights as an alternative to the standard boltgun metal with dark wash. It is a nice effect and works well to contrast the brighter colors of these models.

Thank you Riddle.

Three more completed including a Gang Leader and another Juve.




Entire gang so far.

As I am short on longer ranged weapons, the last two are a Leader with a Bolter and a Ganger with an Autogun.

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Thank you youwashock, Viterbi, and Heretic Tom.

I thought I should show some shots of some of the terrain I have been building recently on the table top for a game of 40K (Not enough of our group members are ready for old school Necromunda yet).









Some of the roads, ruins, scatter, etc.

Cheers,

CB

youwashock wrote:Looks fantastic, Cap'n. It is awesome to see the pieces "in their element", as it were.

Thank you youwashock.

Viterbi wrote:Nice gaming table, looked really good in the other thread with the minis on it!

Thank you Viterbi

The Riddle of Steel wrote:That tables looks great. I love the way the craters on the road helps to blend it in with the terrain around it. I did some battle damage on my roads, but I didn't build it out to overlap the table next to the road like you did, which makes it a lot more realistic and pulls it together. The overall table has a sufficiently blasted and bleak look to be a great setting for a battle.

Thank you Riddle

Yorkright wrote: I’ve been waiting to see some of your terrain, looks very grim dark. The blasted and barren trees are a nice addition to the remains of the nearby buildings.

Thank you Yorkright

Started a project using the filter, in the meantime I finished some more Cawdor gang members: Leader and a Heavy.



The gang so far.


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Thank you Ezki and youwashock

Fango wrote:What did you do for the blasted trees? Woodland Scenics?

Thanks Fango, yes the burnt trees are Woodland Scenic pines, cut up and bent without any foliage.

Two more Cawdor finished.





The whole gang so far, four more to go.


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tzurk wrote:Great work CB - always something inspiring in this thread whether it's terrain ideas or seeing the old models done justice. Look forward to seeing what you come up with for the water filter

Thanks tzurk

Viterbi wrote:Great work as usual. Love the bright red as a spot color and the green waterbottle on one of the last two models. And seeing his revolver I can't help thinking he nicked it of Hellboy

Thank you Viterbi, the name is getting consideration.

Maharg wrote:Good work on the Cawdor gang so far, great to see these old minis getting some love. Terrain looks superb too, a really bleak warzone

Thanks Maharg

gobert wrote:Proper old skool gangers. I never got in to Necromunda back in the day, but always loved the character of the models and how they developed through a campaign. Shame my minis budget won’t stretch to them! Still I can live vicariously through your blog!

Glad I can be of some service gobert.

If anyone has old metal Necromunda laying around drop me a PM.

The water filter into some sort of power plant project begins.

Some of the things I will need.



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Water filter project is on hold while I do some Necromunda terrain for the scene for my Monthly Painting Challenge entry.

Roof made from 0.6 thick polystyrene card with raised edges.


Sides made from old Necromunda bulkheads


Ends with old Necromunda bulkheads with a doorway.


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Warboss_Waaazag,

Thanks, hoping I will not disappoint.

Adding vents and some hatches to the top in the lower center.


Adding a lip to the overhang.


First layer of paint and primer.


Masking for the hazard stripes.


More to come after I get some yellow on the edges.

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Thanks folks.

Here is the result after touch-up and weathering.







I did not add graffiti as the sides of the model really do not have much in the way of flat space. What this has confirmed is I probably want to paint the bulkheads prior to fixing them to the floors for the towers.

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