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Hi guys,
Want to build a full 2000pt army. Ideally I'd go harlequins, but it just costs way to much.

I've found that there are some cheap space marine models in Ebay- particularly tactical marines.

I've looked around ebay and some bitz sites and I think I could create this list for less than $250.

I know this isn't the most competitive list, but how do you think it would do against some half-decent lists? It would very much be relying on strategms, in particular fight twice.




++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [67 PL, -3CP, 1,176pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

**Chapter Selection**: White Scars

Relics of the Chapter [-3CP]: 3x Number of extra Relics

+ HQ +

Captain on Bike [6 PL, 140pts]: Chogorian Storm, Storm shield, Thunder hammer, Twin boltgun, Warlord, Wrath of the Heavens

Librarian [6 PL, 116pts]: 1) Veil of Time, 3) Null Zone, Bolt pistol, Force stave, Jump Pack

+ Troops +

Tactical Squad [4 PL, 62pts]
. 4x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter

Tactical Squad [4 PL, 62pts]
. 4x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter

Tactical Squad [4 PL, 62pts]
. 4x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter

+ Elites +

Apothecary on Bike [4 PL, 82pts]: Twin boltgun

Company Ancient on Bike [5 PL, 94pts]: Banner of the Eagle, Power sword, Twin boltgun

Terminator Assault Squad [20 PL, 328pts]: Teleport Homer
. Terminator Sergeant
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. 7x Terminator w/THSS: 7x Storm shield, 7x Thunder hammer

Vanguard Veteran Squad [14 PL, 230pts]: Jump Pack
. Space Marine Veteran: Power sword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: Power sword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: Power sword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: Power sword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: Power sword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: Power sword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: Power sword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: Power sword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: Power sword, Storm shield
. Veteran Sergeant: Power sword, Storm shield

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [26 PL, 415pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

**Chapter Selection**: White Scars

+ HQ +

Librarian on Bike [8 PL, 129pts]: Boltgun, Force stave, Mantle of the Stormseer, Twin boltgun

Lieutenants [6 PL, 84pts]
. Lieutenant: Jump Pack, Power sword, Storm bolter

+ Troops +

Tactical Squad [4 PL, 62pts]
. 4x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter

Tactical Squad [4 PL, 70pts]
. 3x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant
. . Boltgun/Bolt pistol
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter

Tactical Squad [4 PL, 70pts]
. 3x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant
. . Boltgun/Bolt pistol
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [24 PL, 408pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

**Chapter Selection**: White Scars

+ HQ +

Captain on Bike [6 PL, 100pts]: 2x Lightning Claw, Twin boltgun

Chaplain on Bike [6 PL, 106pts]: Plume of the Plainsrunner, Power fist, Twin boltgun

+ Troops +

Tactical Squad [4 PL, 70pts]
. 3x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant
. . Boltgun/Bolt pistol
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter

Tactical Squad [4 PL, 70pts]
. 3x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant
. . Boltgun/Bolt pistol
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter

Tactical Squad [4 PL, 62pts]
. 4x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter

++ Total: [117 PL, -3CP, 1,999pts] ++

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Hy there welcome to the forum, the nice thing is you can mix match all the eldar stuff even the dark eldar (and those are usually cheap and have some great CC just like harlequins . its just a thought

well Having a lot of CP is nice but if your do not have stuff to use it on then its not very good...
i would take larger squads 10 men tactical marines have the advantage that have the option to break the unit down in combat squads... what this does if you play a game your opponent will have to kill both the combat squads to score any points. if you are not going for that i would max out the weapons you can take you can have a few squads hang back with missel lancers or lascannon or heavy bolters . but the unit that go forward i would give them melta or plasma guns the sergeant a nice combi weapon . your lacking in the heavy weapons department so you have to make up for that with loads of little guns . plasma are not that good as melta but they do have a much longer range but do less damage

Vanguard Veteran Squad
dont take only storm shields the trick is you get to pick the guy that has to take the save... if you get shot with a bolter or something with AP0 you take a guy with no 3++ if you get shot with a lascanon you let the guy with the storm-shield take the hit again.
Dont take only power swords but mix it up a bit one with sergeant with a power fist will help against harder targets give a few plasma pistols when you come down its easy to do something. 6 tacktical squads with 6 M-lanchers or las cannons


thunderhammer stormshield terminators are very slow if every one just runs away from them ... well your going to have bad day walking around the table + these are expencive in points and how many thunderhammers do you think you need to kill stuff again just taking 1 weapon type really limits what you can do with a unit.

Taking things on a bike is nice but those thunderhammer terminators really need a captain to make them a lot more effective. the reroll or the ones makes them a lot more reliable.
any way its just my 2 cents
good luck collecting your army but remember do not collect and play a army because it is cheap ..... You should find out what kind of game you want to play ..... Close combat if you really like close combat you could just paint them chaos colors or blood angels you should really just read up on what kind of army you want to play

Thanks for the reply. I would like to play harlequins, but when I priced up an army, it came to about $700. I just cant spend that much.

Thanks for your advice. Makes sense.

With the terminators though my plan was to have a big squad which can string out and tie up multiple units with a charge. Also with the WS psychic powers and the Chaplin they should be able to charge from deep strike. Also, there's a 1CP strategy which give the terminators +1 to hit which makes them more reliable.

In regards to their speed, as I said, they can charge from deep strike but they can also fall back and charge. On top of this, there's a WS strategy which allows terminators to consolidate an extra 3" and the Chaplin's litany which also give them +3" to consolidate.

Obviously, I'd need to play with it but I think that this could work. Thoughts?

Some lascannons or ML and plasma or melta would be perfect on the tactical squads but they add so much points. That job will fall to the terminators. Also footslogging the tactical squads will be a problem another reason why I want to keep then cheap. I think the only way around it is to drop the troops from a battalion to free up some points, but I would like to keep the CP.

I take your point with the storm shields, but even if i dropped half of them, I'd only get back 10 points.

I think if you were able to squeeze in some bike squads you could add in some meltas and plenty of chainswords and storm bolters. Would work well with all the characters on bikes. Could also be used to open up space for Terminators to land and get that charge off. An 8" charge with a reroll isn't massively reliable but could work, but the biggest problem is getting around DS screening.

To make points just drop 3 tactical squads and a couple of characters. Enough points for 2 big squads.

As for tactics I'd hold the vanguard out of LOS until you're in assault doctrine. Then rush up the board and mop up the screen until you can get the Terminators and Veterans into the action.

Oke i was thinking how about a rino they are dirt cheap even more so secondhand and they can be a great for transporting troops or for LOS blocking . i made a list we can talk about .
i gave your characters some upgrades so they have a purpuse if they do not fight in hand to hand like your lib give them a good gun so that if they are not in combat they can try and blow stuff up a combi melta or plasma will do nicely it gives you options also you do not need that many thunderhammers they are a lot of points and a power fist does basicly the same for a lot less i gave your aincient termi armor because the option of a bike is lacking in my battle scribe are you sure he can take one? there are still some pionts left


++ Battalion Detachment ++

**Chapter Selection**: White Scars

+ HQ +
Captain on Bike [6 PL, 124pts]: Combi-melta, Power fist, Storm shield, Twin boltgun, Warlord, Wrath of the Heavens

Chaplain on Bike [6 PL, 121pts]: Combi-melta, Power fist, Twin boltgun

+ Troops +
Tactical Squad [4 PL, 72pts]
3x Space Marine
Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter
Boltgun/Bolt pistol
Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter

Tactical Squad [4 PL, 82pts]
3x Space Marine
Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter
Boltgun/Bolt pistol
Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Grav-cannon and grav-amp

Tactical Squad [4 PL, 82pts]
3x Space Marine
Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter
Boltgun/Bolt pistol
Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Grav-cannon and grav-amp

++ Vanguard Detachment ++

+ HQ +
Librarian [6 PL, 127pts]: Boltgun, Combi-plasma, Force stave, Jump Pack

+ Elites +
Ancient in Terminator Armor [5 PL, 98pts]: Power fist, Storm bolter

Apothecary on Bike [4 PL, 82pts]: Twin boltgun

Terminator Assault Squad [20 PL, 328pts]
Terminator Sergeant
Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
7x Terminator w/THSS: 7x Storm shield, 7x Thunder hammer

Vanguard Veteran Squad [14 PL, 235pts]: Jump Pack
Space Marine Veteran: Plasma pistol, Power fist
Space Marine Veteran: Plasma pistol, Power fist
Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Power axe
Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Power axe
Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Power axe, Storm shield
Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Power axe, Storm shield
Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Power axe, Storm shield
Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Power axe, Storm shield
Veteran Sergeant: Plasma pistol, Relic blade, Storm shield

++ Battalion Detachment ++

+ HQ +

Chaplain in Terminator Armor [5 PL, 105pts]: 1. Litany of Faith, Combi-melta, Litany of Hate

Librarian on Bike [8 PL, 144pts]: Boltgun, Combi-melta, Force stave, Twin boltgun

+ Troops +

Tactical Squad [7 PL, 89pts]
4x Space Marine
Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Melta bombs, Storm bolter
Boltgun/Bolt pistol
Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter

Tactical Squad [7 PL, 104pts]
4x Space Marine
Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Melta bombs, Storm bolter
Boltgun/Bolt pistol
Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon

Tactical Squad [7 PL, 104pts]
4x Space Marine
Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Melta bombs, Storm bolter
Boltgun/Bolt pistol
Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon

+ Dedicated Transport +
Razorback [5 PL, 89pts]: Storm bolter, Twin heavy bolter