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So in relation to each other how do the various gods rank? Like obviously Choas Gods>>>> Eldar gods given just one Choas god and or Goddess litterally ate almost the entire Eldar Pantheon. Id assume Gork and Mork are up there. No clue where the Ctan rank. Where would you guys put the various gods and Godlike beings in a ranking system?

Gork and Mork are wayyyy above the Chaos God's and sometimes just randomly come to their kingdoms smashing everything.
Khorne is the strongest of the Chaos gods and Slaanesh the weakest.

Gork and Mork are at the top but only fight each other. Chaos follows and some lore has Slaanesh being slightly weaker. Emperor goes here. Then you have what's left of the Eldar. Tau get bottom with their dumbass Greater Good god. C'Tan aren't Warp entities so I haven't counted them plus they must have been pretty crappy for their own servants to pokeball them.

Gork and Mork are like all orks - very powerful, but lacking the ability to remain united to take advantage of that power to rule over all. Instead they'll barge in, smash up stuff and then run off or end up fighting each other. Basically they are in it for the fighting.

After that the 4 Chaos gods don't really have set powers and their relative powers wax and wane all the time. Slaanesh is often thought to be the newer and weaker, but because Slaanesh is excess technically Slaanesh will eventually become the most powerful of all because all the 3 other gods embody certain elements; but excess can embody them all.

Also power is a hard thing in the Warp because technically there is no time. So Slaanesh never was, but always has been. As such they are all equally the strongest and weakest at once.

 Overread wrote:
Gork and Mork are like all orks - very powerful, but lacking the ability to remain united to take advantage of that power to rule over all. Instead they'll barge in, smash up stuff and then run off or end up fighting each other. Basically they are in it for the fighting.

After that the 4 Chaos gods don't really have set powers and their relative powers wax and wane all the time. Slaanesh is often thought to be the newer and weaker, but because Slaanesh is excess technically Slaanesh will eventually become the most powerful of all because all the 3 other gods embody certain elements; but excess can embody them all.

Also power is a hard thing in the Warp because technically there is no time. So Slaanesh never was, but always has been. As such they are all equally the strongest and weakest at once.

Exactly this. Slaanesh is not the weakest; but he will at some point become the strongest and wipe the others out. Some point. Meaning likely after GW ends and nobody cares anymore.

The Real question is now that the Great Horned Rat is an official Chaos God - when will the Great Plague of Ruin come to the 40K world

40k Skaven when?


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Tyrannids, maybe?

chimera0205 wrote:
So in relation to each other how do the various gods rank? Like obviously Choas Gods>>>> Eldar gods given just one Choas god and or Goddess litterally ate almost the entire Eldar Pantheon. Id assume Gork and Mork are up there. No clue where the Ctan rank. Where would you guys put the various gods and Godlike beings in a ranking system?

I don't know how you'd judge...

If you're going with relations between gods, then surely the God-Emperor of Mankind is #1 because he duped all of the Chaos Gods and can stand against all of them simultaneously.

The Warp Gods are in constant flux but generally speaking Khorne is the most powerful Chaos God, and Slaanesh the weakest. Slaanesh did devour the Eldar pantheon, but the pantheon was pretty much dying of starvation at that point since most of the Eldar had stopped feeding them worship. Gork and Mork show up rarely but are sometimes depicted as the mightiest force in the Warp when properly stirred. The Tyranid Hive Mind I'd wager is probably weaker than these but it's hard to say.

The C'tan can't be gauged against Warp gods. They are by definition incapable of interacting, with the C'tan existing solely in the materium and the Warp gods being incapable of leaving the Warp.

Well Stompas are power level 46, and I imagine an ork battle station is probably a couple of thousand times more powerful than that. The Emperor nearly died practically soloing such a place, which roughly ranks him at power level 9000, perhaps a little more.

Thats a starting point for us. How do other 'gods' compare to Biggie?

 Overread wrote:
The Real question is now that the Great Horned Rat is an official Chaos God - when will the Great Plague of Ruin come to the 40K world

The Emperor is an avatar of the Great Horned Rat. He allowed his disgusting kind to swarm all over the galaxy before the other Chaos Gods were able to intervene. Even now, his trillions of children rush around bickering with each other and wrecking stuff.

Gork and Mork are canonically the most powerful. But since they're just there for the fighting they have no real interest in actually finishing the job. In a sense, they are the gods of war unending. Fed by the unending violence of the 40k universe. They are 40k in a nutshell.

The Big 4 are under Gork and Mork collectively.

The Emperor fits in here somewhere. The Chaos Gods genuinely fear his power. When they had all poured all of their power into Horus, they immediately withdrew their blessing just before the Emperor obliterated Horus. Mind, body, and soul. Their fear over that incident suggests that the Emperor could have caused permanent damage to them if they had lingered.

I think the Emperor is more powerful than the Big 4 combined. However, his power is limited because he exists within the material universe and he is taxed by the Astronomicon. He could obliterate the chaos gods if he wanted, but he is chained to the Golden Throne, both in terms of him needing to operate it lest humanity collapse and possibly because something in its workings is actually strong enough to keep him chained.

The Emperor is stuck. If he destroys the main enemies of humanity, humanity might be doomed because the Emperor would have to stop guiding the Astronomicon. Most of humanity would get wiped out by the chaos of the Emperor actually leaving them to destroy the Chaos Gods. And since the Emperor wants to save humanity from extinction, his best course of action is to keep the status quo.

Another aspect is that even if the Emperor (or another force) destroyed the four great Chaos Gods, the Chaos Realm itself would still exist. The Chaos Gods are simply four of the greatest and most powerful demons within the Warp. Destroy them and others might well arise within the Warp. As a result they could go from four to many; or those that arise might war and then one arises supreme over them all. So you could swap four that squabble between themselves for one all powerful Chaos entity. Thus making matters many times worse.

True freedom would be either destroying the Chaos Realm utterly; The Emperor taking over the Chaos Realm* or sealing it back off so that its locked away and cannot harm the material world.

* Note that as the Emperor is human and very very focused on humanity, replacing the big four with him would only benefit humanity. Eldar and Orks and all other life that dies and enters the warp might well suffer under the Emperor of the Chaos Realm. Eldar already have means to mitigate this, but it could be a spark that causes a uniting of the Ork Clans under one single all powerful Warboss - which would be the kind of thing that could shatter the Imperium.

Question: if the Orks were created by the Old Ones (to fight off the Necrons), where the hell did Gork and Mork come from?

 Darian Aarush wrote:
Question: if the Orks were created by the Old Ones (to fight off the Necrons), where the hell did Gork and Mork come from?

The same place every other God comes from in 40k: subconscious feeling and belief.

chimera0205 wrote:
So in relation to each other how do the various gods rank? Like obviously Choas Gods>>>> Eldar gods given just one Choas god and or Goddess litterally ate almost the entire Eldar Pantheon. Id assume Gork and Mork are up there. No clue where the Ctan rank. Where would you guys put the various gods and Godlike beings in a ranking system?

Slaanesh was litteraly at its most powerful at the moment of its birth, while the Eldar Gods were at their very weakest.