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Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries




I'm just getting started with the game and will join my local beginners club at some point soon. I don't mind losing as I want to learn, I just hoping I can learn and have fun with the units below:

HQ: Primaris Captain w/ Power sword Stalker bolt rifle
Troops: Intercessor 4 man, 1 Sergeant
Troops: Intercessor 4 man, 1 Sergeant
Elite: Sternguard 4 man w/ special issue boltgun, 1 Sergeant w/ Special issue Boltgun and Powerfist
Heavy Support: Hellblaster 4 man, 1 Sergeant.

This list is bang on 500pts. Do you think this is good to start off with? Would really like to stick with Sterngaurd if possible if there are any changes (I like them as I have conversion plans for them which I'm looking forward to starting)

Apologies in advance if my format doesn't make a lot of sense!

Thanks

Joel
   
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar





Upstate, New York

500 point lists are always going to be odd. Hard to cover all your bases at that level.

When building at this level, do you go pure WYSWYG or do a bit of counts-as? Your intercessor sarges could use some toys, and the AGLs are not bad for a point each. At the very least, take the free chainswords. But not a lot of slack in 500 points. Something to keep in mind as you go up.

The fist would probably work better on the intercessors. Same A, more W to soak up hits. It’s not bad on the sternguard.

I like the autobolt on the captain over the stalker, but they both have their place. More shots is normally better. For a hang back and buff guy, he works just fine. And a powersword isn’t bad if you need to carve something up.

Your AV fire is the hellblasters and the fist. At 500 points that should be enough for a beginner league.

Good weight of anti horde firepower; lots of bolters.

Little mobility. You are just footslogging everywhere. Now Ultras in the Tac doctrine can put out some fire on the move, but still on foot. Playing on smaller tables (as you should at 500 points) not a big deal, but something to think about as you grow.

Think about your relics and warlord traits. A bunch of options out there.

But what you have there is a solid starter army. As you grow, add a second HQ and another troop to fill out a batalion. You will want some mobility to grab objectives on larger tables, and AV firepower to deal with the big stuff that starts to show up when the points go up.

Courage and Honour!

   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





A GREAT thing for starting players is also the "battle boxes" becasue almost every local game store has a couple players who are pretty new with different armies to start. Finding someone to split a battlebox with gives you a bunch of stuff (usually fairly solid stuff that is decent to use) for roughly half price, and gives you someone who now thinks of you as a 1. cool guy who got them their deathgaurd stuff cheaper and 2. potential play opponent. For example "dark imperium" is about 140 bucks, so your half would be 70, and get you 5 more hellblaster, 3 bolter incepters, 10 intercessers more, another captain and 2 lieutenants. ... so like, 20 primaris for about 67 bucks.
Conversely if you go after the cheapish but still one player primaris starter set of the wolven you get something like that, only not quite as good a deal, but you don't have to split it.

The smallest -- easy split -- kits are down in the 34 (edit .. per person.) bucks range ("know no fear") and has 5 Primaris Intercessors
x5 Hellblasters
x3 Interceptors
x1 Primaris Captain in Gravis Armor.

Yeah, ytou probably don't want 2 captains especially cause gravis armor is a fairly slow to move footslogger, but... consider 3 primaris inceptors if bought alone are already a 42 dollar purchase. More advanced kits like the shadowspear greatly alter your possible battle options, and come with more and different officers. (shadowspear has a phobos trio .. cap'n, lieut, and librarian). Wake the dead has a lieutenant but no captain. Those make those kits excellent options to balance out your captain rathter than doubling up, but the know no fear is a pretty awesome filler deal.

it gives you your battalion and the incepters are a drop unit, you have a lot more firepower with 10 hellblasters than 5 against armor, and its only 34 or so bucks, AND you have foudn a friend at the local game store -- or had an excellent means of introducing yourself to all the other new players just to ask them if they want to split a box.

You can also ask the other older players which boxes are good to split, thus meeting all of them. Usually people are encouraging to new players, so you can quickly find a lot of expertese wiling to help you gin up your new list in person.

Use those conversations to ask around if there are any people selling old marine stuff they no longer want. Many people dip into marine armies and don't play them much, and many are quite willing to sell the odd drop pod or marine tank for cheap, or dreadnaught, or old squad of tac marines, etc.

That's another way you can get your army bigger cheaply. Don't buy the individual units in boxes yet at all, because you are essentially paying double to pick EXACTLY the unit you want to play with, and right now, you haven't foudn your own playstyle and your own enjoyment style in the hobby as a marine player yet. In a few months, you may be gleefully charging your line of orks at the enemy, and your marines, although much enjoyed, are relegated to a back drawer in your bedroom because you like orcs better. Or you may find you really wanted slightly different primaris, in which case, sell your newbie starter army to someone else for a bit less than you paid, and go buy what you really, really want.

So save your ducats now, its a case of measuring twice before spending full premium price once!

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/10/29 13:46:43


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Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries




Thanks for your responses. I actually have a large army that is building at the moment (close to 2000pts). However as I've only been painting all this time I felt it was good to start to off learning the game with a 500pt army. I notice a lot of SM 500 pt armies have a standard of intercessors hellblasters and a captain. I thought I would choose the Sternguard as my own spin on the standard.

I'll have to take some of these ideas on and update my battlescribe as I think the suggestions take me over 500pts
   
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Storm Trooper with Maglight





Leicester

the thing you should know then friend; is that these captain, intercessor, hellblasters builds you see are just a cheap way of experiencing the hobby... whatcha painted? lets talk? a lot of armies would be more fun at 500pts than a handful of marines clustered in an aura

feel free to DM me?
   
 
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