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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/11/12 23:16:53
Subject: [1500] - Catachan - Imperial Guard vs Death Guard
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Guardsman with Flashlight
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I’m playing my buddy in a friendly 1500 pt game Sunday. It’s right now 1 win and 1 loss for both of us. Any advice for this fun list!
Spending three consecutive for extra relics. Putting blade of conquest on lord commissar, tuskblade on company commander and death mask on Strakan for better invul save and clutch heal. Threw in plasma pistols for days with Harker for reroll 1s and crusaders for some good fun.
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [49 PL, 921pts, 5CP] ++
+ HQ +
Colonel 'Iron Hand' Straken ]
Company Commander ]: Plasma pistol, Power sword
+ Troops +
Infantry Squad ]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
Infantry Squad ]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
Infantry Squad ]
. 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Plasma pistol, Power sword
+ Elites +
Bullgryns ]
x6 with mauls, slab shields
Crusaders ]
. 10x Crusader: 10x Power Sword
Sergeant Harker []
+ Fast Attack +
Hellhounds ]
. Hellhound: Heavy Bolter, Turret-mounted Inferno Cannon
Hellhounds ]
. Hellhound: Heavy Bolter, Turret-mounted Inferno Cannon
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [15 PL, 259pts, 8CP] ++
+ HQ +
Company Commander ]: Plasma pistol, Power sword
Primaris Psyker ]: Force Stave, Nightshroud, Psychic Maelstrom
+ Troops +
Infantry Squad ]
. 7x Guardsman
. Heavy Weapon Team: Autocannon
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol
Infantry Squad ]
. 7x Guardsman
. Heavy Weapon Team: Autocannon
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol
Infantry Squad ]
. 7x Guardsman
. Heavy Weapon Team: Autocannon
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol
+ Elites +
Command Squad ]
x4 vets with chainswords
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [21 PL, 320pts, 5CP] ++
+ HQ +
Company Commander ]: Plasma pistol, Power fist
Lord Commissar ]: Plasma pistol, Power sword
+ Troops +
Infantry Squad]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
Infantry Squad ]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
Infantry Squad ]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
+ Elites +
Command Squad ]
x4 vets with chainswords
x2 Ministorum Priest ]: Boltgun, Laspistol
Total: [85 PL, 18CP, 1,500pts]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/11/13 00:55:51
Subject: [1500] - Catachan - Imperial Guard vs Death Guard
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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you know you can't put a relic on a named charater like the colonel, so deathmask can go (surprise) on your psyker primaris, giving him repairs after an ill rolled warp mishap, and a force shielded character with some self repair and a force staff is suddenly an emergency melee add in. Alternately, remember the emperor's benediction for a commisar is also good in a frontline commisar.
I was just about to say "where is the ministorium priest(s) but I see them! Good show!
Strongly consider giving your guys conclave spec detachment .. for the pile in and fight on death strat if nothing else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/11/13 01:07:04
Subject: [1500] - Catachan - Imperial Guard vs Death Guard
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Guardsman with Flashlight
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Ahh good catch on the relic. I wasn't sure if the emperors benediction was worth it since I dont really have anything else that can target characters with him. And the blade gets him up to 5 str more on par with his catachan "friends."
What book is the conclave special detachment in? I only have the main rulebook and the codex. Only really started getting a chance to play 40k about 4 months ago, been slowly collecting, and painting for 3 years. Used to have an old world skaven army so couldnt resist another horde plus the best faction from dawn of war.
My next purchases are probably going to be some artillery as I really only have mortars as well as 4 regular pattern leman russ (magnetized) and 2 magnetized specialized leman russ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/11/13 01:49:09
Subject: [1500] - Catachan - Imperial Guard vs Death Guard
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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My " best loadou" t I can find for a lord commisar in a fight like this (other than being born Yarrik) is a powerfist (cause he still swings it at a 3+ as the baddass that he is) and the emperor's benediction bolt pistol. Someone else, whose to hit is less useful with a powerfist, can benefit as much or more from an s6 version of the blade of conquest. (move a fist and sword around, basically, to keep point neutral, and give the only guyu who can shoot the benediction that weapon relic)
Melee now carry s6 -2 d3 instead of the swords s5, which is usually pretty good. But it gives him a sniping weapon that has a bit of ap on it, and that is rare. Also, its potentially not necessary to go after characters you probably won't affect with it -- marines, for example, EVEN PRIMARIS, die just as well. He could potentially potshot 3 troops before he even steps into melee, and if you find yourself killing the occasional minor character who needs finishing off, its got that potential too.
With all the troops you got, an astropath with his ability to strip cover off a target would be a great addition. Sure, its situational as hell, but he can throw a spell and a denial each round, and if that spell is malstrom, I have never seen a malstrom equipped astropath fail to make his own points back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/11/13 23:16:45
Subject: [1500] - Catachan - Imperial Guard vs Death Guard
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Guardsman with Flashlight
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Ah yes I only have 1 officer modeled with a power fist and he doesnt quite look fancy enough to be a commissar but that does sound like a good time though. Since my army is going to be largely taking the center of the board are the autocannon squads even worth it? I can drop those and fit in an astropath or drop the command squads and get some mortars in there. I mostly just feel naked without my tank commanders but wanted to try something new. I believe he plans on taking a land raider with termies though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/11/14 12:13:22
Subject: [1500] - Catachan - Imperial Guard vs Death Guard
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Land raiders and termies almost make the autocannon not worth it -- but they CAN shoot at all the rest of his marines.
So not bad, either.
Marines in cover (and who stands in the fire when there is cover nearby) basically can ignore all but the most sleeting mortar spam, as they end up only failing on a 2+.. So ONE failed marine save requires 6 (average) saves rolled, or 12 attempts to wound on a 4+, or 24 mortar shots on a 4+ to hit. God save you if he is ravengaurd!
Astropath probably does you pretty well with malstrom (a few mortal woudns a round) and strip cover (and that DOUBLES your effectiveness vs any marine in the game who hoped to cover in, with the lasguns that are the bulk of your shooting!) Easily causing an average of about 3 wounds a round, and potentially, causing them directly to his termies in cover.
But even a heavy bolter or a heavy inferno cannon benefits from the strip cover effect, if you get it in the right spot.
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